Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 14:06     Subject: Re:People who lie about service animals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No solution, but three years ago a woman had a service dog on the plane - we all debark. I stop to check my phone, then push on with my luggage. Catch up to the woman and her dog and it is taking a huge dump in the airport. How can that be a service dog? My so not service, poorly behaved rescue dog would NEVER sh*t inside.


How long of a flight? Even service dogs need to poo, PP. I've fostered dozens of dogs in my life, and service or no service, when you have to go, you have to go. Airports usually have potty spots for dogs, but they're few and far between and can take a really long time to walk to! A decent human would come prepared to clean up after their dog, with poo bags, disinfecting wipes and paper towels. Similar concept to diaper bags, really I travel with a "dog bag".


Me again. I disapprove of liars who pretend their dogs are service dogs, of course. The staff can always ask to see the certificate.


There's no such thing as a certificate for service dogs. All someone can do is ask if the dog is trained to perform assistance (I don't remember the exact wording).
That's why it's such a minefield to deal with for businesses.


They can ask if is task trained and what the task is. They can't ask the reason for the task (ie what is your disabilty?) Or request that the dog demonstrate the task (which wouldn't be possible for things like medical alert). They CAN have a dog removed for any misbehavior that is disturbing others, but mere presence wouldn't count.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:59     Subject: Re:People who lie about service animals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No solution, but three years ago a woman had a service dog on the plane - we all debark. I stop to check my phone, then push on with my luggage. Catch up to the woman and her dog and it is taking a huge dump in the airport. How can that be a service dog? My so not service, poorly behaved rescue dog would NEVER sh*t inside.


How long of a flight? Even service dogs need to poo, PP. I've fostered dozens of dogs in my life, and service or no service, when you have to go, you have to go. Airports usually have potty spots for dogs, but they're few and far between and can take a really long time to walk to! A decent human would come prepared to clean up after their dog, with poo bags, disinfecting wipes and paper towels. Similar concept to diaper bags, really I travel with a "dog bag".


Me again. I disapprove of liars who pretend their dogs are service dogs, of course. The staff can always ask to see the certificate.


There's not really such a thing as "the certificate" and its illegal to ask for something like that.

/seeing eye dog puppy raiser
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:57     Subject: Re:People who lie about service animals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No solution, but three years ago a woman had a service dog on the plane - we all debark. I stop to check my phone, then push on with my luggage. Catch up to the woman and her dog and it is taking a huge dump in the airport. How can that be a service dog? My so not service, poorly behaved rescue dog would NEVER sh*t inside.


How long of a flight? Even service dogs need to poo, PP. I've fostered dozens of dogs in my life, and service or no service, when you have to go, you have to go. Airports usually have potty spots for dogs, but they're few and far between and can take a really long time to walk to! A decent human would come prepared to clean up after their dog, with poo bags, disinfecting wipes and paper towels. Similar concept to diaper bags, really I travel with a "dog bag".


Me again. I disapprove of liars who pretend their dogs are service dogs, of course. The staff can always ask to see the certificate.


There's no such thing as a certificate for service dogs. All someone can do is ask if the dog is trained to perform assistance (I don't remember the exact wording).
That's why it's such a minefield to deal with for businesses.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:56     Subject: People who lie about service animals
My cousin does this. He claims his dog is a service dog. He told me that no one is allow to ask what the dog does, so it's basically a free for all to bring is dog on planes, to restaurants, etc. These are morally bankrupt people.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:56     Subject: Re:People who lie about service animals
People often use the term service dog when the animal is an emotional support animal. The latter is not necessarily entitled to the breadth of access that a service animal has.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:54     Subject: People who lie about service animals
There's absolutely nothing to be done with the way laws are written.
I was in a grocery store and a lady was pushing an obese, sleeping Dachshund in a filthy dog bed in the cart. Someone said something to her about it and she rattled off that it was a service dog and that the ADA protected her from questions.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:54     Subject: Re:People who lie about service animals
I was recently at school pick up and a bunch of kids were hugging and petting a service dog. The dog was love it, barking and chasing the kids. I always thought they were working not playing with kids.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:53     Subject: People who lie about service animals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ask them what service/task the dog performs.


I'm not the staff of the restaurant


NP. Still good to ask, because then you can call them on their BS. I want to see those aholes squirm.

Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:53     Subject: Re:People who lie about service animals
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No solution, but three years ago a woman had a service dog on the plane - we all debark. I stop to check my phone, then push on with my luggage. Catch up to the woman and her dog and it is taking a huge dump in the airport. How can that be a service dog? My so not service, poorly behaved rescue dog would NEVER sh*t inside.


How long of a flight? Even service dogs need to poo, PP. I've fostered dozens of dogs in my life, and service or no service, when you have to go, you have to go. Airports usually have potty spots for dogs, but they're few and far between and can take a really long time to walk to! A decent human would come prepared to clean up after their dog, with poo bags, disinfecting wipes and paper towels. Similar concept to diaper bags, really I travel with a "dog bag".


Me again. I disapprove of liars who pretend their dogs are service dogs, of course. The staff can always ask to see the certificate.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:51     Subject: Re:People who lie about service animals
Anonymous wrote:No solution, but three years ago a woman had a service dog on the plane - we all debark. I stop to check my phone, then push on with my luggage. Catch up to the woman and her dog and it is taking a huge dump in the airport. How can that be a service dog? My so not service, poorly behaved rescue dog would NEVER sh*t inside.


How long of a flight? Even service dogs need to poo, PP. I've fostered dozens of dogs in my life, and service or no service, when you have to go, you have to go. Airports usually have potty spots for dogs, but they're few and far between and can take a really long time to walk to! A decent human would come prepared to clean up after their dog, with poo bags, disinfecting wipes and paper towels. Similar concept to diaper bags, really I travel with a "dog bag".
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:49     Subject: People who lie about service animals
Anonymous wrote:How do we get people to stop doing this? I was in restaurant and someone walks in with a tiny poodle of some variety. Staff asks that the dog stays outside. Women protests saying it's a service animal. As I'm leaving the dog goes absolutely wild aggressively barking at my baby in a stroller. I didn't say anything. Should I have? What gets people to stop?


I so agree OP. These are not "service animals."

The staff should have held their ground, hopefully with the backup of the manager. Customers like you should back them up as well. Who cares if this one woman "protests." We all know it's BS.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:47     Subject: Re:People who lie about service animals
No solution, but three years ago a woman had a service dog on the plane - we all debark. I stop to check my phone, then push on with my luggage. Catch up to the woman and her dog and it is taking a huge dump in the airport. How can that be a service dog? My so not service, poorly behaved rescue dog would NEVER sh*t inside.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:47     Subject: People who lie about service animals
Anonymous wrote:Ask them what service/task the dog performs.


I'm not the staff of the restaurant
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:44     Subject: People who lie about service animals
Ask them what service/task the dog performs.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2025 13:43     Subject: People who lie about service animals
How do we get people to stop doing this? I was in restaurant and someone walks in with a tiny poodle of some variety. Staff asks that the dog stays outside. Women protests saying it's a service animal. As I'm leaving the dog goes absolutely wild aggressively barking at my baby in a stroller. I didn't say anything. Should I have? What gets people to stop?