Anonymous wrote:At our private school, it appears rigor is not as important as the number. 3.8 no matter what rigor has a chance at various T20s. Below 3.8, the chance drops a lot even if you've taken the most rigorous.
SAT is a threshold, once you are over 1500, no one is questioning your academics.
So at this specific school, both test score and GPA serve as thresholds.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I've heard here and in podcasts with AOs themselves, that they treat test scores as a threshold ie, they glance at it, it raises no alarm bells, they move on.
Do you think GPA is treated similarly? A kid in top 1% and top 5% at our school is often about if the lower ranked kid took an extra unweighted class like music theory so I find GPA as dicey as test scores, if not more so.
It depends on the HS, and what else is in the application.
From a non-rigorous public, a 3.8uw might = a disgard.
From a feeder private, a 3.8uw might mean a closer read.
Your HS matters MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
Anonymous wrote:I get the issue with taking an unweighted class, and AOs can see that too.
They can't see that there may be two Calc BC sections in a large rigorous HS and one teacher grades completely differently than the other - nor will it show up on a grade distribution chart.
GPA is an issue, but I dont think AOs have cracked it. They do lean into that and rankings more than they should IMO.
Anonymous wrote:I've heard here and in podcasts with AOs themselves, that they treat test scores as a threshold ie, they glance at it, it raises no alarm bells, they move on.
Do you think GPA is treated similarly? A kid in top 1% and top 5% at our school is often about if the lower ranked kid took an extra unweighted class like music theory so I find GPA as dicey as test scores, if not more so.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I've heard here and in podcasts with AOs themselves, that they treat test scores as a threshold ie, they glance at it, it raises no alarm bells, they move on.
Do you think GPA is treated similarly? A kid in top 1% and top 5% at our school is often about if the lower ranked kid took an extra unweighted class like music theory so I find GPA as dicey as test scores, if not more so.
AOs read a transcript the same way you’d read a resume: they’re hunting for evidence of ambition and follow-through, not just a big number at the bottom.
A lot of colleges are more focused on how much students challenged themselves with the courseload rather than GPA itself. Did they take the highest rigor the school offered? How many? Are they continue to challenge themselves in the senior year?
Of course you still want a high GPA in the highest rigor courseload, but merely having a 4.0 by itself doesn't really tell the AOs much.
Anonymous wrote:I've heard here and in podcasts with AOs themselves, that they treat test scores as a threshold ie, they glance at it, it raises no alarm bells, they move on.
Do you think GPA is treated similarly? A kid in top 1% and top 5% at our school is often about if the lower ranked kid took an extra unweighted class like music theory so I find GPA as dicey as test scores, if not more so.