Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:58     Subject: Re:New American Pope = US Lost its Power

I take this, if anything, to be a kind of check on Trump in the US. I don't think it has anything to do with the US losing it's power.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:58     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There has never been an American Pope in part because the Catholic Church didn't want so much power consolidated within the US. Now that the US has really been knocked down with its international relations, currency, economy, leadership, etc., it's ok to have an American Pope. Just another data point as we track the downfall.


I am hardly a MAGA but all this does is cement the US further as a global leader? What are you even talking about?


Too early to tell, but if he takes any of the core humanitarian stances of his predecessor, a showdown looms with Trump and U.S. foreign policy.


He likely will not. He's more conservative:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/world/americas/pope-candidate-cardinal-robert-francis-prevost.html#:~:text=when%20asked%20about%20gay%20clerics,at%20odds%20with%20the%20gospel.%E2%80%9D



If this is his twitter, we got a woke pope my friend:

https://x.com/drprevost
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:57     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

Anonymous wrote:Argentina is part of America too, you dolt.


Exactly. And I don’t think this guy was elected pope by accident. He’s the anti Trump. It’s a great choice.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:56     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There has never been an American Pope in part because the Catholic Church didn't want so much power consolidated within the US. Now that the US has really been knocked down with its international relations, currency, economy, leadership, etc., it's ok to have an American Pope. Just another data point as we track the downfall.


I am hardly a MAGA but all this does is cement the US further as a global leader? What are you even talking about?


No. It is largely understood that the US would never produce a pope until it was no longer the top power.


Is that an actual thing or is it just what people said to rationalize why there hadn’t been one? There are *lots* of places that haven’t had a pope.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:56     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There has never been an American Pope in part because the Catholic Church didn't want so much power consolidated within the US. Now that the US has really been knocked down with its international relations, currency, economy, leadership, etc., it's ok to have an American Pope. Just another data point as we track the downfall.


I am hardly a MAGA but all this does is cement the US further as a global leader? What are you even talking about?


Too early to tell, but if he takes any of the core humanitarian stances of his predecessor, a showdown looms with Trump and U.S. foreign policy.


He likely will not. He's more conservative:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/world/americas/pope-candidate-cardinal-robert-francis-prevost.html#:~:text=when%20asked%20about%20gay%20clerics,at%20odds%20with%20the%20gospel.%E2%80%9D
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:55     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

1.5 billion Catholics worldwide vs. 15 million hardcore evangelical weirdos in the U.S.

😂
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:55     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

Argentina is part of America too, you dolt.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:55     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There has never been an American Pope in part because the Catholic Church didn't want so much power consolidated within the US. Now that the US has really been knocked down with its international relations, currency, economy, leadership, etc., it's ok to have an American Pope. Just another data point as we track the downfall.


I am hardly a MAGA but all this does is cement the US further as a global leader? What are you even talking about?


Too early to tell, but if he takes any of the core humanitarian stances of his predecessor, a showdown looms with Trump and U.S. foreign policy.


He is generally fairly progressive and has tweeted support for immigrants in the US and against White Supremacy.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:54     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

Anonymous wrote:It was a compromise to keep out the African pope after the Italian stumbled.

After I saw them do some shenanigans with birth certificates to get two more people a vote, I figured we would end up with a transgender pope.


This isn't Hollywood, this is real (extremely ritualized and privileged) life!
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:53     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

It was a compromise to keep out the African pope after the Italian stumbled.

After I saw them do some shenanigans with birth certificates to get two more people a vote, I figured we would end up with a transgender pope.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:52     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

He spent most of his career in Peru and Rome, and he’s also a citizen of Peru.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:52     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There has never been an American Pope in part because the Catholic Church didn't want so much power consolidated within the US. Now that the US has really been knocked down with its international relations, currency, economy, leadership, etc., it's ok to have an American Pope. Just another data point as we track the downfall.


I am hardly a MAGA but all this does is cement the US further as a global leader? What are you even talking about?


Too early to tell, but if he takes any of the core humanitarian stances of his predecessor, a showdown looms with Trump and U.S. foreign policy.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:50     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There has never been an American Pope in part because the Catholic Church didn't want so much power consolidated within the US. Now that the US has really been knocked down with its international relations, currency, economy, leadership, etc., it's ok to have an American Pope. Just another data point as we track the downfall.


I am hardly a MAGA but all this does is cement the US further as a global leader? What are you even talking about?


No. It is largely understood that the US would never produce a pope until it was no longer the top power.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:48     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

Anonymous wrote:There has never been an American Pope in part because the Catholic Church didn't want so much power consolidated within the US. Now that the US has really been knocked down with its international relations, currency, economy, leadership, etc., it's ok to have an American Pope. Just another data point as we track the downfall.


I am hardly a MAGA but all this does is cement the US further as a global leader? What are you even talking about?
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 13:47     Subject: New American Pope = US Lost its Power

There has never been an American Pope in part because the Catholic Church didn't want so much power consolidated within the US. Now that the US has really been knocked down with its international relations, currency, economy, leadership, etc., it's ok to have an American Pope. Just another data point as we track the downfall.