More than a million Americans have died in recent years from the drugs that MS-13, the Sinaloa cartel, the Jalisco cartel and others have trafficked into the US, which is always accompanied by extreme violence. The most horrifying videos online are always the cartel torture videos. Anyone that is a member or associates with MS-13 and the cartels is an existential threat to America. Absolutely extreme measures should be taken against these men. And that will have pretty universal support among Americans, especially in communities devastated by these people - whether it's Portland, Or or Morgantown, WV. Democrats are on the wrong side here. Support for attacking MS-13 and the cartels is pretty universal across all political lines.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have they been found guilty of being a gang member by a jury of peers?

Yes, they were convicted. Are you mocking the due process requirement? I want criminals convicted appropriately, but I also still want due process.

+1 I think this is where most of us land.

I think it's where most democrats land, but I'm not so sure about republicans and independents. I think most republicans and independents don't care about due process if they are illegal immigrants, and if democrats really think otherwise, I think we're in for some painful lessons in the midterms. The ads will be, "DJT wants to deport illegals, but democrats and activist judges are stopping us." It's pretty shocking to me that, after the November election, democrats are still this clueless.

Anonymous wrote:I'm very wary of that press release, which focuses pretty extensively on the supposed immigration status of the offenders.

It reads like manufacturing consent for violence against immigrants, like those Nazi papers that exclusively published crimes ostensibly committed by Jewish Germans.

It isn't a press release. It's a news article. Know the difference.

Anonymous wrote:Have they been found guilty of being a gang member by a jury of peers?

It’s not illegal to be in a gang. Being in a gang is not a crime.
It should be but it’s not.
The crimes they commit for the gang are a different story.

I'm very wary of that press release, which focuses pretty extensively on the supposed immigration status of the offenders.

It reads like manufacturing consent for violence against immigrants, like those Nazi papers that exclusively published crimes ostensibly committed by Jewish Germans.

Part of the issue is that U.S. policy has long been that if you are convinced of a crime here, you do the time here and then you get deported. So let’s say you are raped by an undocumented alien and he is convicted. Do you want him sent back immediately to his home country where he wk likely walk free and maybe try it sneak back in? Or do you want him to serve his prison sentence here and then get deported? I’m not even positive what the right answer is here, but that’s the issue.

And totally agree with PP that it is so stupid to focus on deporting the non criminals (who are so much easier to catch!). Did you all see the article about the wonderful music teacher from Venezuela who is leaving the U.S. because they e cancelled his status so he is now technically undocumented and is not willing to wait out the judicial process because he’s too scared of being sent to a Salvadoran jail? We are doing this all a&$ backwards.

Anonymous wrote:Have they been found guilty of being a gang member by a jury of peers?

yes of course, do you know about due process?

Anonymous wrote:Enough is enough!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-prison-guards-injured-inmates-accused-ms-13-members/

These violent MS13 members cannot be deported back to their home country soon enough.

Agreed, and our first priority should be stopping the practice of deporting innocent people to El Salvador. What a waste of time and energy when we could be concentrating on criminals. How many people will be injured because the Trump administration has no idea what it is doing?

Anonymous wrote:Enough is enough!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-prison-guards-injured-inmates-accused-ms-13-members/

These violent MS13 members cannot be deported back to their home country soon enough.

1) Prison guards. Not jail. Know the difference.

2) MS13 is a US-originated and US-based gang. You know that, right? It’s homegrown?

You don’t sound very smart.

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Anonymous wrote:Have they been found guilty of being a gang member by a jury of peers?

Yes, they were convicted. Are you mocking the due process requirement? I want criminals convicted appropriately, but I also still want due process.

It has not been proven that they are MS-13 gang members.

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Anonymous wrote:Have they been found guilty of being a gang member by a jury of peers?

Yes, they were convicted. Are you mocking the due process requirement? I want criminals convicted appropriately, but I also still want due process.

+1 I think this is where most of us land.

Anonymous wrote:Enough is enough!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-prison-guards-injured-inmates-accused-ms-13-members/

These violent MS13 members cannot be deported back to their home country soon enough.

Now these are the people that should have been on that plane to CECOT. These people have already been convicted of violent crimes.

Anonymous wrote:Have they been found guilty of being a gang member by a jury of peers?

Yes, they were convicted. Are you mocking the due process requirement? I want criminals convicted appropriately, but I also still want due process.

Have they been found guilty of being a gang member by a jury of peers?

Enough is enough!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-prison-guards-injured-inmates-accused-ms-13-members/

These violent MS13 members cannot be deported back to their home country soon enough.