Anonymous wrote:

I guess we've got a "both sides" situation. What other companies will NY state restrict from doing business (for purely political reasons)? This isn't the right way to play. Innovative business models to save money are not welcome in NY state.


https://fortune.com/2025/04/28/elon-musk-tesl...rk-state-government/



Actually, sounds like they have only Tesla an examption so they are just putting Tesla in the same category as other manufacturers. This seems reasonable (why would Tesla have an exemption in the first place?). I mean, you can reasonably argue whether it’s a good rule or not, but it doesn’t seem wrong to treat Tesla like everyone else.

Rivian also comes under this law. Any EV car company would come under this. So nobody will start an EV car company.

Discriminating against dealerships is not "free trade", OP.

The franchise law is problematic, though the law or something loke it defensible on fair-market antitrust grounds, but it's unconscionable that only Tesla got an exemption from it.

https://www.newsweek.com/new-york-democrats-tesla-dealerships-2065242

What's wrong with this? Tesla's leader just destroyed hundreds of thousands of lives across the country, stole US citizen's private data, and screwed with a lot of federal funds/contracts. A state doesn't have to allow a company to do business there when the business is actively trying to harm its economy and residents.

Anonymous wrote:


Loss for the consumer. Pay more for your car because of third party model. The problem in America is the chokehold that the status quo has. On lots of things. We will be under China's thumb soon enough.


So is having Trump as POTUS.

Again, oh well.

Doesn't help for Democrats to double down.

Ny dems showing off just how dumb they are.

Anonymous wrote:

I guess we've got a "both sides" situation. What other companies will NY state restrict from doing business (for purely political reasons)? This isn't the right way to play. Innovative business models to save money are not welcome in NY state.


https://fortune.com/2025/04/28/elon-musk-tesl...rk-state-government/



Actually, sounds like they have only Tesla an examption so they are just putting Tesla in the same category as other manufacturers. This seems reasonable (why would Tesla have an exemption in the first place?). I mean, you can reasonably argue whether it’s a good rule or not, but it doesn’t seem wrong to treat Tesla like everyone else.

Look, the car dealership lobby (the dinosaur companies) have a chokehold on the politicians. Any new business model (and it can be for ANY product) could be locked out of business in a state because of this kind of lobbying. It hurts AMERICA because we cannot develop new models that are competitive. Any car company could decide to use Tesla's model for selling cars. Why should Tesla have to sell like other manufacturers? It is not reasonable at all. Do you want to continue to pay too much for your car? Tesla is not like everyone else. EV cars do not need the same infrastructure as ICE cars. Why penalize them for not having it? I would not vote for that governor if I lived in NY.

Rivian has the same model for selling EVs.

Anonymous wrote:
OP here. I vote Democratic, but this is too much government interference in individual choice and freedom. WTF. Do we want cheaper cars or not?

We have to balance many competing things - e.g., inexpensive prices for goods + business opportunities for Americans + reasonable working conditions & pay.

One could argue that the desire for cheap prices at the expense of American jobs heavily contributed to the loss of manufacturing, which contributed to the anger and resentment that middle America has, which brought us MAGA.

Anonymous wrote:
I guess we've got a "both sides" situation. What other companies will NY state restrict from doing business (for purely political reasons)? This isn't the right way to play. Innovative business models to save money are not welcome in NY state.


https://fortune.com/2025/04/28/elon-musk-tesla-sales-new-york-state-government/

Actually, sounds like they have only Tesla an examption so they are just putting Tesla in the same category as other manufacturers. This seems reasonable (why would Tesla have an exemption in the first place?). I mean, you can reasonably argue whether it’s a good rule or not, but it doesn’t seem wrong to treat Tesla like everyone else.

Anonymous wrote:

Wisconsin already does this.

Other states will follow.

Oh well.

Loss for the consumer. Pay more for your car because of third party model. The problem in America is the chokehold that the status quo has. On lots of things. We will be under China's thumb soon enough.

So is having Trump as POTUS.

Again, oh well.

OP here. I vote Democratic, but this is too much government interference in individual choice and freedom. WTF. Do we want cheaper cars or not?

Wisconsin already does this.

Other states will follow.

Oh well.

Loss for the consumer. Pay more for your car because of third party model. The problem in America is the chokehold that the status quo has. On lots of things. We will be under China's thumb soon enough.

another article on the subject:

https://electrek.co/2025/04/28/ny-lawmakers-shut-down-teslas-stores/

Wisconsin already does this.

Other states will follow.

Oh well.

I guess we've got a "both sides" situation. What other companies will NY state restrict from doing business (for purely political reasons)? This isn't the right way to play. Innovative business models to save money are not welcome in NY state.


https://fortune.com/2025/04/28/elon-musk-tesla-sales-new-york-state-government/