Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have got to pick better examples for these sob stories:

"The child in question’s father, Maiker Espinoza-Escalona, is a lieutenant of Tren De Aragua who oversees homicides, drug sales, kidnappings, extortion, sex trafficking and operates a torture house, the agency said.

DHS added that, in addition to the father, the child’s mother, Yorely Escarleth Bernal Inciarte, oversees the recruitment of young women for drug smuggling and prostitution."

Again, these two were locked up under Biden and Biden let everyone in! Biden even went so far as to fly people into the country from Venezuela and these two were still locked up!

Oh, but I'm sure their intentions were heartfelt and good. OP keeps searching for stories in an attempt to justify illegal immigration and trash the US.

1. They were not illegal.
2. I am not trying to justify illegal immigration
3. I am 100% fine with the US government deporting mother, father, and child together to Venezuela.

What I am not okay with:
1. Sending people to a maximum security prison in El Salvador, especially *without due process*
2. Deporting a mother and keeping the baby

How am I unreasonable?

I agree with you (DP.) I am fine with US Citizen children being deported with their non-citizen parents if there is no citizen relative/friend that the parents want to give custody to.

But having a citizen child is not a license to stay in the US illegally. I’m tired of people crying “but my child is a citizen!” Okay, send them to live other citizens then because you don’t have status to stay. And I am glad that practice is being ended, even though I don’t approve of separating them.

Anonymous wrote:You have got to pick better examples for these sob stories:

"The child in question’s father, Maiker Espinoza-Escalona, is a lieutenant of Tren De Aragua who oversees homicides, drug sales, kidnappings, extortion, sex trafficking and operates a torture house, the agency said.

DHS added that, in addition to the father, the child’s mother, Yorely Escarleth Bernal Inciarte, oversees the recruitment of young women for drug smuggling and prostitution."

Again, these two were locked up under Biden and Biden let everyone in! Biden even went so far as to fly people into the country from Venezuela and these two were still locked up!

You are wrong about Biden letting everyone in. In fact, the Biden administration were the ones who started the dumb, let's jail everyone with a tattoo policy. (Decried by every Venezuelan gang experted as misguided.) Many of the men, whom DHS sent to El Salvador, were in detention because of their tattoos under Biden.

It is true, though, that Biden followed the Constution and let them people see a judge. And the judge could then determine if there was anything more than a tattoo as evidence. So, yes, Biden started a stupid screening process but at least he believed in due process.

Shaking my head that anyone is quoting DHS as if what they say is a fact. Do you also quote Pete Hegseth? Stephen Miller? ?!?!?!

The US is plummeting in the eyes of the universe and DHS does what Trump has taught everyone. Make stuff up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have got to pick better examples for these sob stories:

"The child in question’s father, Maiker Espinoza-Escalona, is a lieutenant of Tren De Aragua who oversees homicides, drug sales, kidnappings, extortion, sex trafficking and operates a torture house, the agency said.

DHS added that, in addition to the father, the child’s mother, Yorely Escarleth Bernal Inciarte, oversees the recruitment of young women for drug smuggling and prostitution."

Again, these two were locked up under Biden and Biden let everyone in! Biden even went so far as to fly people into the country from Venezuela and these two were still locked up!

Oh, but I'm sure their intentions were heartfelt and good. OP keeps searching for stories in an attempt to justify illegal immigration and trash the US.

1. They were not illegal.
2. I am not trying to justify illegal immigration
3. I am 100% fine with the US government deporting mother, father, and child together to Venezuela.

What I am not okay with:
1. Sending people to a maximum security prison in El Salvador, especially *without due process*
2. Deporting a mother and keeping the baby

How am I unreasonable?

You know there’s another thread here where the baby went with the deported mother, and people are angry about it.

Did you post there and say that’s ok?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have got to pick better examples for these sob stories:

"The child in question’s father, Maiker Espinoza-Escalona, is a lieutenant of Tren De Aragua who oversees homicides, drug sales, kidnappings, extortion, sex trafficking and operates a torture house, the agency said.

DHS added that, in addition to the father, the child’s mother, Yorely Escarleth Bernal Inciarte, oversees the recruitment of young women for drug smuggling and prostitution."

Again, these two were locked up under Biden and Biden let everyone in! Biden even went so far as to fly people into the country from Venezuela and these two were still locked up!

Oh, but I'm sure their intentions were heartfelt and good. OP keeps searching for stories in an attempt to justify illegal immigration and trash the US.

1. They were not illegal.
2. I am not trying to justify illegal immigration
3. I am 100% fine with the US government deporting mother, father, and child together to Venezuela.

What I am not okay with:
1. Sending people to a maximum security prison in El Salvador, especially *without due process*
2. Deporting a mother and keeping the baby

How am I unreasonable?

Anonymous wrote:You have got to pick better examples for these sob stories:

"The child in question’s father, Maiker Espinoza-Escalona, is a lieutenant of Tren De Aragua who oversees homicides, drug sales, kidnappings, extortion, sex trafficking and operates a torture house, the agency said.

DHS added that, in addition to the father, the child’s mother, Yorely Escarleth Bernal Inciarte, oversees the recruitment of young women for drug smuggling and prostitution."

Again, these two were locked up under Biden and Biden let everyone in! Biden even went so far as to fly people into the country from Venezuela and these two were still locked up!

OMG

Just because DHS makes up a lie does not make it true.

I beg of you, if you have any conscience or decency, please consider that DHS is saying this to demonize them. PLEASE. Do not be a sheep.

Don't you understand that there can never be any "sob story" if DHS plays by these rules?? All they have to do is say this!!! There is no evidence of any of this.

Anonymous wrote:You have got to pick better examples for these sob stories:

"The child in question’s father, Maiker Espinoza-Escalona, is a lieutenant of Tren De Aragua who oversees homicides, drug sales, kidnappings, extortion, sex trafficking and operates a torture house, the agency said.

DHS added that, in addition to the father, the child’s mother, Yorely Escarleth Bernal Inciarte, oversees the recruitment of young women for drug smuggling and prostitution."

Again, these two were locked up under Biden and Biden let everyone in! Biden even went so far as to fly people into the country from Venezuela and these two were still locked up!

Oh, but I'm sure their intentions were heartfelt and good. OP keeps searching for stories in an attempt to justify illegal immigration and trash the US.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The father was the lead plaintiff suing not to go to Guantanamo Bay. Now it seems like he might have been better off there.

What do they have on him since from when he entered over a year ago in May 22, 2024, in El Paso, Texas and requested asylum he has been in custody? That seem so strange since most people with children were not detained or only briefly detained under Biden.

Just read his declaration and he says the mother of the child has been detained since October of 2024 because they have been having weekly in person visits with the child. Removing the child from the parents happened under Biden. Poor kid.

From his declaration-

7. Additionally, I do not want to be transferred to or detained at Guantanamo because I will
be separated from my partner, Yorely Escarleth Bernal Inciarte, and my two-year-old
daughter. My partner is also detained at the El Paso Processing Center. Our daughter is
currently in ORR custody. My partner and I have had weekly, in-person visits with our
daughter since around October 2024. If I am transferred to Guantanamo, I will be
separated from my family.

Biden wasn't using Guantanamo. Something is off here.

He was sent to Guantanamo UNDER TRUMP.

The Biden administration AND copycat Trum administration used tattoos as screening tool. Both abslolutely assenine.

Will people stop saying "the government did X. They must be really bad"??? Do a little research for yourselves!! Otherwise you are COMPLICIT. The government is imprisoning INNOCENT Venezuelans right now. There was no accusation of a crime. There is ZERO evidence that the mom is in Tren de Aragua. There was no due process. Do you hate the Consitution and freedom?? You are letting this happen!

I will finish by saying I DON'T CARE IF THEY ARE IN A GANG. YOU CANNOT STEAL BABIES. I won't even list the totally obvious other options here, of which there are many. The only one that is the worst kind of wrong is KEEPING THIS BABY IN THE US.

You have got to pick better examples for these sob stories:

"The child in question’s father, Maiker Espinoza-Escalona, is a lieutenant of Tren De Aragua who oversees homicides, drug sales, kidnappings, extortion, sex trafficking and operates a torture house, the agency said.

DHS added that, in addition to the father, the child’s mother, Yorely Escarleth Bernal Inciarte, oversees the recruitment of young women for drug smuggling and prostitution."

Again, these two were locked up under Biden and Biden let everyone in! Biden even went so far as to fly people into the country from Venezuela and these two were still locked up!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The father was the lead plaintiff suing not to go to Guantanamo Bay. Now it seems like he might have been better off there.

What do they have on him since from when he entered over a year ago in May 22, 2024, in El Paso, Texas and requested asylum he has been in custody? That seem so strange since most people with children were not detained or only briefly detained under Biden.

Just read his declaration and he says the mother of the child has been detained since October of 2024 because they have been having weekly in person visits with the child. Removing the child from the parents happened under Biden. Poor kid.

From his declaration-

7. Additionally, I do not want to be transferred to or detained at Guantanamo because I will
be separated from my partner, Yorely Escarleth Bernal Inciarte, and my two-year-old
daughter. My partner is also detained at the El Paso Processing Center. Our daughter is
currently in ORR custody. My partner and I have had weekly, in-person visits with our
daughter since around October 2024. If I am transferred to Guantanamo, I will be
separated from my family.

Biden wasn't using Guantanamo. Something is off here.

1. They are required to assess each asylum claim independently. In the other thread some are mad that a 2 year was sent back with her mother. Here we're mad that the child was not.

2. Both parents were held under Biden and it was a complete free for all under Biden so the parents must have been really bad.

3. The man's own sister said he was an economic migrant, not here for asylum:

Marly, who is Escalona's sister, said her brother was also a barber and traveled to the U.S. for a better life.

"My brother is a 25-year-old guy, a dreamer, like all Venezuelans," Marly said in Spanish. "He loves cutting hair. He finished high school, he took courses in barbering and set up his barbershop in Venezuela. But things got a bit tough in Venezuela, so he emigrated to have a better life."

The baby was born - time to stop caring about the child's life.

Anonymous wrote:The father was the lead plaintiff suing not to go to Guantanamo Bay. Now it seems like he might have been better off there.

What do they have on him since from when he entered over a year ago in May 22, 2024, in El Paso, Texas and requested asylum he has been in custody? That seem so strange since most people with children were not detained or only briefly detained under Biden.

Just read his declaration and he says the mother of the child has been detained since October of 2024 because they have been having weekly in person visits with the child. Removing the child from the parents happened under Biden. Poor kid.

From his declaration-

7. Additionally, I do not want to be transferred to or detained at Guantanamo because I will
be separated from my partner, Yorely Escarleth Bernal Inciarte, and my two-year-old
daughter. My partner is also detained at the El Paso Processing Center. Our daughter is
currently in ORR custody. My partner and I have had weekly, in-person visits with our
daughter since around October 2024. If I am transferred to Guantanamo, I will be
separated from my family.

What’s a little human trafficking if the parents are illegal? /s. MAGA

The father was the lead plaintiff suing not to go to Guantanamo Bay. Now it seems like he might have been better off there.

What do they have on him since from when he entered over a year ago in May 22, 2024, in El Paso, Texas and requested asylum he has been in custody? That seem so strange since most people with children were not detained or only briefly detained under Biden.

I have been looking into this story since Friday. I have contacts in Venezuela who shared the most heart-wrenching video I have seen in my life of a woman devastated because she had been deported without her child.

It turns out I had already heard about this family, who came to the US last year and requested asylum (through the legal channels for inquiring minds!) in the following April 1st ABC news article: https://abcnews.go.com/US/family-venezuelan-migrant-recently-el-salvador-american-horror/story?id=120381541

The US sent the Maiker Espinoza Escalonal to CECOT, kept the mother Yorelys Bernal detained, and put the baby in foster care. I am incensed that the Biden administration started this horror show but the escalation by Trump is horrific. We have now deported the mother and KEPT the two-year-old!! She has no contact with the family who has her baby.

I honestly didn't know whether or not I could believe this atrocity but DHS has confirmed it. Of course they have put their dishonest/we are saviors/demonize the imigrant spin on it:
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/26/dhs-sweeps-action-protect-child-tren-de-aragua-parents

Even if the DHS accusations were believable (which they absolutely are NOT), even if there had been some kind of due process (there has NOT), this is an atrocity.
This is kidnapping.
This goes against common sense and any sense of morality. If you deport the mother -- and the mother implores you to give her back her child -- there is only one thing to do.

The US are officially kidnappers. We are officially as bad as you can get.