Anonymous
04/22/2025 11:12
Subject: New NIH grant rules
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/21/us/nih-bans-grants-universities-dei-programs/index.html
Also reported in politics forum
This sounds like it doesn't just cancel grants related to studying underserved populations but they won't work with universities that Have DEI onsite...so can schools have a Society of Women Engineers? African American cultural house? Programs to help First Gen Students prepare for the transition to college?
Also reported in politics forum
This sounds like it doesn't just cancel grants related to studying underserved populations but they won't work with universities that Have DEI onsite...so can schools have a Society of Women Engineers? African American cultural house? Programs to help First Gen Students prepare for the transition to college?
Anonymous
04/22/2025 11:10
Subject: New NIH grant rules
Anonymous wrote:Any citations op?
I'm not the OP, but it's been all over the news.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/21/us/nih-bans-grants-universities-dei-programs/index.html
Anonymous
04/22/2025 11:07
Subject: New NIH grant rules
Any citations op?
Anonymous
04/22/2025 10:58
Subject: New NIH grant rules
Anonymous wrote:New articles state NIH will not participate in grants with any university that has DEI programming or diverse from Israel…
The DEI portion seems like it would impact many highly respected research universities
This is just more money for Israel. The US is pulling out of NATO, abandoning Ukraine, giving China South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, etc because every country in the world is freeloading off the US. Though when it comes to Israel we just write blank checks?
Anonymous
04/22/2025 10:53
Subject: Re:New NIH grant rules
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I don't get it.
Can we study menopause? That only affects women. So is that DEI? Can we study women's recovery from birth? Can we study postpartum depression?
Can we study the fact that physicians underestimate pain perception in Black patients? Or do we have to just ignore that?
Can we train people that depression symptoms often show up as physical complaints in East Asian populations? Or do we have to not tell our trainees that?
Even if the left, or even NIH, went to far with DEI, the idea that we can't study/train these things AT ALL is outrageous. If you're a conservative, you have to know that this is a really stupid overcorrection.
You don't get it. You can't do any of the health research of anything that might disproportionately affect women, people of color or vulnerable sub-groups. Sucks if you're female or a person of color and plan to ever be ill in your life, but this is a government being led by idiots, and elections have consequences. And there's a list of banned words that can not appear in a NIH proposal, and apparently one of the words is bias---so you can't even write about statistical bias in your sample anymore.
Anonymous
04/22/2025 10:50
Subject: New NIH grant rules
Anonymous wrote:Good. DEI was forced by federal contract on entities under Biden. The President of Harvard very carefully doesn’t support DEI in his public statements because it’s wildly unpopular.
What are you talking about? I managed federal grants under Biden and there were no DEI terms and conditions.
Anonymous
04/22/2025 10:49
Subject: New NIH grant rules
The rule will obviously have to define its terms.
Anonymous
04/22/2025 10:49
Subject: New NIH grant rules
Anonymous wrote:Good. DEI was forced by federal contract on entities under Biden. The President of Harvard very carefully doesn’t support DEI in his public statements because it’s wildly unpopular.
Says the dude who don't know what DEI is.
Anonymous
04/22/2025 10:48
Subject: New NIH grant rules
Well, that doesn't sound legal. You only get an NIH grant if you vow not to disavow discrimination?
Anonymous
04/22/2025 10:44
Subject: Re:New NIH grant rules
Yeah, I don't get it.
Can we study menopause? That only affects women. So is that DEI? Can we study women's recovery from birth? Can we study postpartum depression?
Can we study the fact that physicians underestimate pain perception in Black patients? Or do we have to just ignore that?
Can we train people that depression symptoms often show up as physical complaints in East Asian populations? Or do we have to not tell our trainees that?
Even if the left, or even NIH, went to far with DEI, the idea that we can't study/train these things AT ALL is outrageous. If you're a conservative, you have to know that this is a really stupid overcorrection.
Can we study menopause? That only affects women. So is that DEI? Can we study women's recovery from birth? Can we study postpartum depression?
Can we study the fact that physicians underestimate pain perception in Black patients? Or do we have to just ignore that?
Can we train people that depression symptoms often show up as physical complaints in East Asian populations? Or do we have to not tell our trainees that?
Even if the left, or even NIH, went to far with DEI, the idea that we can't study/train these things AT ALL is outrageous. If you're a conservative, you have to know that this is a really stupid overcorrection.
Anonymous
04/22/2025 10:40
Subject: New NIH grant rules
Anonymous wrote:Good. DEI was forced by federal contract on entities under Biden. The President of Harvard very carefully doesn’t support DEI in his public statements because it’s wildly unpopular.
How do you define DEI?
Anonymous
04/22/2025 10:36
Subject: New NIH grant rules
Good. DEI was forced by federal contract on entities under Biden. The President of Harvard very carefully doesn’t support DEI in his public statements because it’s wildly unpopular.
Anonymous
04/22/2025 09:58
Subject: New NIH grant rules
Have they finally defined DEI?
Anonymous
04/22/2025 09:47
Subject: New NIH grant rules
*divests from Israel
Anonymous
04/22/2025 09:22
Subject: New NIH grant rules
New articles state NIH will not participate in grants with any university that has DEI programming or diverse from Israel…
The DEI portion seems like it would impact many highly respected research universities
The DEI portion seems like it would impact many highly respected research universities