Anonymous
Post 04/18/2025 15:18     Subject: Air Force removes reference to first female thunderbird pilot from website
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just out of curiosity, was this move because the current administration is trying NOT to emphasize immutable characteristics as defining excellence? Of course race, gender, etc... exist, but why not simply focus on their achievement first?

The idea of "people who look (or are) like me" is a bit of a relic of the past. Today, there are no legal barriers to opportunity for high-achievement. There is only a person's desire to be excellent.


I’m curious - do you really believe that the only ceiling to people’s achievement is their own desire to be excellent? Research shows people are still biased in all sorts of ways and act on that bias. It also shows that most people’s employment, income, education, incarceration status, is highly correlated with factors we don’t choose like socio economic status, race, and gender. Is it that you think people just don’t value things like education, money, and staying free enough to accomplish those things? Or do you believe social science is a bunch of hooey?


But that goes to the heart of of affirmative action and emphasizing people's immutable characteristics as a basis for group discrimination. Individual cases of discrimination do still exist, but systemic discrimination does not.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2025 15:00     Subject: Air Force removes reference to first female thunderbird pilot from website
Anonymous wrote:Just out of curiosity, was this move because the current administration is trying NOT to emphasize immutable characteristics as defining excellence? Of course race, gender, etc... exist, but why not simply focus on their achievement first?

The idea of "people who look (or are) like me" is a bit of a relic of the past. Today, there are no legal barriers to opportunity for high-achievement. There is only a person's desire to be excellent.


I mean … her achievement WAS in part that she was the first woman to do it.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2025 14:58     Subject: Air Force removes reference to first female thunderbird pilot from website
Anonymous wrote:Just out of curiosity, was this move because the current administration is trying NOT to emphasize immutable characteristics as defining excellence? Of course race, gender, etc... exist, but why not simply focus on their achievement first?

The idea of "people who look (or are) like me" is a bit of a relic of the past. Today, there are no legal barriers to opportunity for high-achievement. There is only a person's desire to be excellent.


I’m curious - do you really believe that the only ceiling to people’s achievement is their own desire to be excellent? Research shows people are still biased in all sorts of ways and act on that bias. It also shows that most people’s employment, income, education, incarceration status, is highly correlated with factors we don’t choose like socio economic status, race, and gender. Is it that you think people just don’t value things like education, money, and staying free enough to accomplish those things? Or do you believe social science is a bunch of hooey?
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2025 14:42     Subject: Air Force removes reference to first female thunderbird pilot from website
Anonymous wrote:Just out of curiosity, was this move because the current administration is trying NOT to emphasize immutable characteristics as defining excellence? Of course race, gender, etc... exist, but why not simply focus on their achievement first?

The idea of "people who look (or are) like me" is a bit of a relic of the past. Today, there are no legal barriers to opportunity for high-achievement. There is only a person's desire to be excellent.


Laughable that this administration could define excellence in any way, shape, or form. They are a clown act of ignorance and incompetence.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2025 14:14     Subject: Air Force removes reference to first female thunderbird pilot from website
Just out of curiosity, was this move because the current administration is trying NOT to emphasize immutable characteristics as defining excellence? Of course race, gender, etc... exist, but why not simply focus on their achievement first?

The idea of "people who look (or are) like me" is a bit of a relic of the past. Today, there are no legal barriers to opportunity for high-achievement. There is only a person's desire to be excellent.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2025 14:06     Subject: Air Force removes reference to first female thunderbird pilot from website
Republican men are so fragile.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2025 14:00     Subject: Air Force removes reference to first female thunderbird pilot from website
Just pathetic. Just because you erase someone from a website, it doesn't mean she doesn't exist. It doesn't mean she didn't accomplish great things.

Just like with LGBT and trans people. You can erase us from your websites and ban us from your bathrooms, but we still exist.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2025 13:37     Subject: Air Force removes reference to first female thunderbird pilot from website
Following trump’s directives.

Remind me again why people wanted this?

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