Anonymous wrote:Unlike the others, AOC is playing up her hotness. She even released that video, with media claiming conservatives were objecting to her dancing.

Recently? I feel like she’s been playing it down in the last year or so.

I don't think we'll see a female President until the 2040s range.

It's interesting how many liberal males in my age range (25-35) don't believe that a woman is capable of running the country. I heard this so many times from male friends/acquaintances before the election: I'm going to vote for her b/c she's the Democrat, but I don't think she'll do a good job.

And you know where that was coming from? Almost all had SAHMs. They did not view the jobs their moms did as SAHMs as equal in importance or workload to the jobs that their dads did outside of the home.

Unlike the others, AOC is playing up her hotness. She even released that video, with media claiming conservatives were objecting to her dancing.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Dem, left of left of center, as in the Bernie and AOC wing of the progressive Democrats. And still, I'm coming to terms with this take on American culture: The first woman president will be a Republican.

Would you have said this about the first black President?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a left of center Democrat and I agree with you. They'll elect a woman with internalized misogyny and then try to act like they've done such great things for women. Sadly, the country isn't ready to elect a woman with liberal beliefs. She's too threatening.

I’ve always thought this too.

Yup. They'll use it as ammunition, much like how they say Democrats were the part of slavery as if that has any relevance to our current politics.

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Anonymous wrote:If Elise Stefanik manages to become governor of NY she would check most of these boxes.

Pleasing to the male gaze? Nah.

I’m thinking the woman will be older than Elise, more young grandmotherly than pinup. Basically a modern day US version of Margaret Thatcher.

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Anonymous wrote:If Elise Stefanik manages to become governor of NY she would check most of these boxes.

Pleasing to the male gaze? Nah.

Sad that there's such a double standard here. We haven't had a president who was pleasing to the female gaze since Obama.

Anonymous wrote:If Elise Stefanik manages to become governor of NY she would check most of these boxes.

Pleasing to the male gaze? Nah.

If Elise Stefanik manages to become governor of NY she would check most of these boxes.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a left of center Democrat and I agree with you. They'll elect a woman with internalized misogyny and then try to act like they've done such great things for women. Sadly, the country isn't ready to elect a woman with liberal beliefs. She's too threatening.

I’ve always thought this too.

I'm a left of center Democrat and I agree with you. They'll elect a woman with internalized misogyny and then try to act like they've done such great things for women. Sadly, the country isn't ready to elect a woman with liberal beliefs. She's too threatening.

OP I don't know if agree with all the other details of your post, but I've been thinking this basic thing for about 30 years. The first female president will likely be a white Republican.

This is a dumb thread

And no, I don’t think the first female president will be republican. You are not paying attention. They want women to be trad wives and don’t even want them voting. They certainly don’t want a woman worrying her pretty little head over nuclear codes.

I'm pretty sure they would rather die than vote for a woman.

I'm a Dem, left of left of center, as in the Bernie and AOC wing of the progressive Democrats. And still, I'm coming to terms with this take on American culture: The first woman president will be a Republican.

I personally would vote for AOC or any of the younger Democrats being talked about now. But she won't win. If America votes for a woman, it will be a woman who does not threaten the male ego. She will be conservative but code moderate, simply by being softspoken and having gentle mannerisms. She will be attractive, probably white, probably of a slender build, and definitely a mother. Most likely of a WASP or northern European background.

I used to think Kristi Noem fit the bill until she bragged about shooting a dog. But generally she will fit the profile of a Mama Grizzly conservative, "tough" only in the pro-America red-blooded right wing kind of way, stroking the alpha male aesthetic ego. She won't be a pantsuit girlboss. She would win independents and moderate Democrats only because so much of this country is ill-informed about politics in that a woman - a softspoken woman, not someone outwardly crazy like MTG or Lauren Boebert - would "code moderate" just because she's a woman.

The first woman president will be nonthreatening and pleasing to the male gaze, and she will be subservient to a white male VP. But the GOP will get to claim the historic milestone of the first woman president.