Anonymous
04/14/2025 12:17
Subject: NASA RIFs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone posted an ARS technica article a few days ago and said trump wants to cut NASAs budget by 20%.
Why though? I really don't get any of this. It's just destruction for the sake of destruction. This isn't saving any money. It's a tiny portion of government spending.
Overall government spending is up anyway and the tax cuts will make the deficit worse and the tariff shenanigans and trashing of America's reputation will lead to higher interest rates, which will, in turn, make the debt and deficit worse.
NASA doesn’t even seem to be building anything on its own anymore without relying on the private sector. Nearly every major rocket or mission now involves companies like SpaceX, Boeing, or Northrop. Cutting NASA’s budget sucks, yeah — but let’s not pretend they’re still the ones doing the heavy lifting. The private sector is where the real innovation and hardware are coming from these days.
You are just talking about the large manned missions, which are always built by large defense contractors. Satern Vs were built by Boeing and Douglas. Goddard has built satellites and advanced sensors. NASA is about identifying the problem and defining requirements on what the contractor should build. The companies you listed have probably zero planetary or earth scientists, just a bunch of engineers keyed to build strictly to requirements.
Manned space flight is moving to a commercial future, it probably shouldn’t belong to NASA anymore. It’s a solved problem and just refining the technology.
Anonymous
04/14/2025 11:55
Subject: NASA RIFs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone posted an ARS technica article a few days ago and said trump wants to cut NASAs budget by 20%.
Why though? I really don't get any of this. It's just destruction for the sake of destruction. This isn't saving any money. It's a tiny portion of government spending.
Overall government spending is up anyway and the tax cuts will make the deficit worse and the tariff shenanigans and trashing of America's reputation will lead to higher interest rates, which will, in turn, make the debt and deficit worse.
NASA doesn’t even seem to be building anything on its own anymore without relying on the private sector. Nearly every major rocket or mission now involves companies like SpaceX, Boeing, or Northrop. Cutting NASA’s budget sucks, yeah — but let’s not pretend they’re still the ones doing the heavy lifting. The private sector is where the real innovation and hardware are coming from these days.
Anonymous
04/14/2025 11:43
Subject: NASA RIFs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone posted an ARS technica article a few days ago and said trump wants to cut NASAs budget by 20%.
I posted it. The article specifically mentions closure of Goddard. Goddard does mostly unmanned instrumentation- earth observing, climate, planetary, astrophysics, black holes. This administration doesn’t value science esp. Not anything related to climate or Earth observing work Goddard does is incredibly valuable snd unmanned space science returns way more value on the dollar than manned missions. Consider PACE that launched last year. Monitors world-wide plankton counts and type, health of the oceans, climate, and aerosol coverage for period of five years. Total cost per US citizen spent over 15 years was $3. Over fifteen years. Huge return on investment.
I have heard rifs might start this week. Expect to see them keep Houston, Huntsville, Florida, and Glenn (Ohio) because politics. Much of the funding will switch to SpaceX and Blue Origin.
As a side note, a trip to Mars is a waste of money at this point. It takes several months to get there, but far longer to get back due to difference in orbits. We don’t have anything close to making that happen. It’s just a massive money dump to Musk.
I expect the rifs will decimate the
Rifs this week? Ugh. Where did you hear that?
I’m almost afraid that the evil ones will just rif all of Roman to get ahead of the congressional pushback it’s sure to get.
If they are closing Goddard, that seems likely.
Anonymous
04/14/2025 10:55
Subject: NASA RIFs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone posted an ARS technica article a few days ago and said trump wants to cut NASAs budget by 20%.
I posted it. The article specifically mentions closure of Goddard. Goddard does mostly unmanned instrumentation- earth observing, climate, planetary, astrophysics, black holes. This administration doesn’t value science esp. Not anything related to climate or Earth observing work Goddard does is incredibly valuable snd unmanned space science returns way more value on the dollar than manned missions. Consider PACE that launched last year. Monitors world-wide plankton counts and type, health of the oceans, climate, and aerosol coverage for period of five years. Total cost per US citizen spent over 15 years was $3. Over fifteen years. Huge return on investment.
I have heard rifs might start this week. Expect to see them keep Houston, Huntsville, Florida, and Glenn (Ohio) because politics. Much of the funding will switch to SpaceX and Blue Origin.
As a side note, a trip to Mars is a waste of money at this point. It takes several months to get there, but far longer to get back due to difference in orbits. We don’t have anything close to making that happen. It’s just a massive money dump to Musk.
I expect the rifs will decimate the
Rifs this week? Ugh. Where did you hear that?
I’m almost afraid that the evil ones will just rif all of Roman to get ahead of the congressional pushback it’s sure to get.
Anonymous
04/13/2025 20:48
Subject: NASA RIFs
It’s our Cultural Revolution. The intelligentsia must die.
Anonymous
04/13/2025 17:06
Subject: NASA RIFs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone posted an ARS technica article a few days ago and said trump wants to cut NASAs budget by 20%.
Why though? I really don't get any of this. It's just destruction for the sake of destruction. This isn't saving any money. It's a tiny portion of government spending.
Overall government spending is up anyway and the tax cuts will make the deficit worse and the tariff shenanigans and trashing of America's reputation will lead to higher interest rates, which will, in turn, make the debt and deficit worse.
Only SpaceX deserves the goodies.
Anonymous
04/13/2025 15:30
Subject: NASA RIFs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone posted an ARS technica article a few days ago and said trump wants to cut NASAs budget by 20%.
Why though? I really don't get any of this. It's just destruction for the sake of destruction. This isn't saving any money. It's a tiny portion of government spending.
Overall government spending is up anyway and the tax cuts will make the deficit worse and the tariff shenanigans and trashing of America's reputation will lead to higher interest rates, which will, in turn, make the debt and deficit worse.
Trump is evil, but people like you were supposed to be smart enough to notice that Trump was trying to give control of the country to Russia.
You were supposed to try to stop that, or at least to warn us regular people about Trump giving the country to Putin.
If you’re too oblivious to ask at this point why Trump is wrecking our government, and you’re expecting Trump’s and Musk’s actions to be good for America, your critical thinking skills are weak.
You’re losing your job because you failed to push back when Trump gave the country to Putin.
Yiiiiikes. I'm not the pp but "people like you"? How do you even know what the PP thinks or did or did not do?
Anonymous
04/13/2025 15:20
Subject: NASA RIFs
Because it’s a cult.
Anonymous
04/13/2025 14:27
Subject: NASA RIFs
Average American doesn't know NASA's 360 picture and all the work they do in different dimensions, from space to climate, education, medicine, air flight, engineering, agriculture, defense, global connections and much much more. Average American just hears about billions going into space travel not knowing how much revenue it generates in return for American economy. They support budget cuts without knowing what a tiny portion of national budget it is and what ROI it brings.
Anonymous
04/13/2025 14:19
Subject: NASA RIFs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone posted an ARS technica article a few days ago and said trump wants to cut NASAs budget by 20%.
Why though? I really don't get any of this. It's just destruction for the sake of destruction. This isn't saving any money. It's a tiny portion of government spending.
Overall government spending is up anyway and the tax cuts will make the deficit worse and the tariff shenanigans and trashing of America's reputation will lead to higher interest rates, which will, in turn, make the debt and deficit worse.
Asking why is fruitless. There is no why.
Anonymous
04/13/2025 14:12
Subject: NASA RIFs
Anonymous wrote:Someone posted an ARS technica article a few days ago and said trump wants to cut NASAs budget by 20%.
I posted it. The article specifically mentions closure of Goddard. Goddard does mostly unmanned instrumentation- earth observing, climate, planetary, astrophysics, black holes. This administration doesn’t value science esp. Not anything related to climate or Earth observing work Goddard does is incredibly valuable snd unmanned space science returns way more value on the dollar than manned missions. Consider PACE that launched last year. Monitors world-wide plankton counts and type, health of the oceans, climate, and aerosol coverage for period of five years. Total cost per US citizen spent over 15 years was $3. Over fifteen years. Huge return on investment.
I have heard rifs might start this week. Expect to see them keep Houston, Huntsville, Florida, and Glenn (Ohio) because politics. Much of the funding will switch to SpaceX and Blue Origin.
As a side note, a trip to Mars is a waste of money at this point. It takes several months to get there, but far longer to get back due to difference in orbits. We don’t have anything close to making that happen. It’s just a massive money dump to Musk.
I expect the rifs will decimate the
Anonymous
04/13/2025 13:49
Subject: NASA RIFs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone posted an ARS technica article a few days ago and said trump wants to cut NASAs budget by 20%.
Why though? I really don't get any of this. It's just destruction for the sake of destruction. This isn't saving any money. It's a tiny portion of government spending.
Overall government spending is up anyway and the tax cuts will make the deficit worse and the tariff shenanigans and trashing of America's reputation will lead to higher interest rates, which will, in turn, make the debt and deficit worse.
Trump is evil, but people like you were supposed to be smart enough to notice that Trump was trying to give control of the country to Russia.
You were supposed to try to stop that, or at least to warn us regular people about Trump giving the country to Putin.
If you’re too oblivious to ask at this point why Trump is wrecking our government, and you’re expecting Trump’s and Musk’s actions to be good for America, your critical thinking skills are weak.
You’re losing your job because you failed to push back when Trump gave the country to Putin.
Anonymous
04/13/2025 13:18
Subject: NASA RIFs
Anonymous wrote:Someone posted an ARS technica article a few days ago and said trump wants to cut NASAs budget by 20%.
Why though? I really don't get any of this. It's just destruction for the sake of destruction. This isn't saving any money. It's a tiny portion of government spending.
Overall government spending is up anyway and the tax cuts will make the deficit worse and the tariff shenanigans and trashing of America's reputation will lead to higher interest rates, which will, in turn, make the debt and deficit worse.
Anonymous
04/13/2025 10:39
Subject: NASA RIFs
Someone posted an ARS technica article a few days ago and said trump wants to cut NASAs budget by 20%.
Anonymous
04/13/2025 09:59
Subject: NASA RIFs
Anyone have any insights?