Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been here since Covid and I’m
Shocked at how far downhill it’s gone. So much business turnover, dangerous scooter riding, elevators being out everywhere, aggressive dogs even on the metro and owners mishandling them, ZERO working escalators on the DOT side of the navy yard metro exit to name a few. Customer service is also bad a lot of places it’s so so dirty.

I don’t remember it being this way even two years ago. What changed?

Clutch those pearls any harder and you'll have a diamond necklace instead.

Imagine being this fragile, being shocked and terrified of a neighborhood overrun by accountants in baseball jerseys three days a week.

Virtue signaling people like you (and others who excuse anti-social behavior) is why parents and families move out of cities.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been here since Covid and I’m
Shocked at how far downhill it’s gone. So much business turnover, dangerous scooter riding, elevators being out everywhere, aggressive dogs even on the metro and owners mishandling them, ZERO working escalators on the DOT side of the navy yard metro exit to name a few. Customer service is also bad a lot of places it’s so so dirty.

I don’t remember it being this way even two years ago. What changed?

Clutch those pearls any harder and you'll have a diamond necklace instead.

Imagine being this fragile, being shocked and terrified of a neighborhood overrun by accountants in baseball jerseys three days a week.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Affordable" housing is what happened.

Tell your councilmemember to get rid of "inclusionary zoning" and things will be fixed.

You are confused. Most of the affordable housing in the area predates most of the development. You can rezone but people who have lived there for years, since it was mostly warehouses and really dicy after dark.

This is what happens when a neighborhood gentrifies.

Inclusionary boning does result in more crime (than purely market rate development) statistically speaking. The correlation between crime rates and income is very strong. So a higher proportion of low income residents means more crime on average. The counterfactual scenario where all of the new development units were expensive would mean slightly lower crime in Navy Yard.

Anonymous wrote:"Affordable" housing is what happened.

Tell your councilmemember to get rid of "inclusionary zoning" and things will be fixed.

You are confused. Most of the affordable housing in the area predates most of the development. You can rezone but people who have lived there for years, since it was mostly warehouses and really dicy after dark.

This is what happens when a neighborhood gentrifies.

"Affordable" housing is what happened.

Tell your councilmemember to get rid of "inclusionary zoning" and things will be fixed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was in college and the clubs were there, we used to pay people to watch our cars. This used to be real rough. The bougie stuff is a cresting wave than will fall back

To some extent, but the stadium brought in some expensive buildings and stores. Unfortunately, it’s still very poor in surrounding areas and some of those people are criminals and rob stores and have shoot outs. Non criminals got soooked and left.

The neighbor surrounding the stadium is 1000x better than back in the day. Not great, but I don't feel unsafe there.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When I was in college and the clubs were there, we used to pay people to watch our cars. This used to be real rough. The bougie stuff is a cresting wave than will fall back[/quote]

To some extent, but the stadium brought in some expensive buildings and stores. Unfortunately, it’s still very poor in surrounding areas and some of those people are criminals and rob stores and have shoot outs. Non criminals got soooked and left. [/quote]

Is this OP? So you've lived there for 3-4 years?

What you don't get is that it didn't used to be a "neighborhood" at all. Before the stadium went in, and even for many years after because the subprime financial crisis paused development for years, almost no one lived there. There was the naval facility, which has always been closed to the public, a bunch of warehouses, some clubs, and a handful of houses. I believe the elementary school down there was shuttered for years too. The DoT buildings went in, and that brought a few places to eat and a Starbucks. Then the built those row houses, but they practically gave them away. When they first went in, you could buy one for 300-400k. It was a rough neighborhood and they offered a lot of incentives to buyers.

And that was pretty much it, for years. You could park on the street for free, anytime, because there was no one there. Even during a baseball game. But after the game you'd go to Barracks Row/Eastern Market because there wasn't anywhere to eat or drink in Navy Yard and it felt sketchy. You could also drive to the Wharf and go to one of like 2 or 3 restaurants there -- the wharf was also not built up at all.

This was less than 15 years ago.

Anonymous wrote:When I was in college and the clubs were there, we used to pay people to watch our cars. This used to be real rough. The bougie stuff is a cresting wave than will fall back

To some extent, but the stadium brought in some expensive buildings and stores. Unfortunately, it’s still very poor in surrounding areas and some of those people are criminals and rob stores and have shoot outs. Non criminals got soooked and left.

Anonymous wrote:When I was in college and the clubs were there, we used to pay people to watch our cars. This used to be real rough. The bougie stuff is a cresting wave than will fall back

Ah, those clubs. Miss those days. Totally sketchy neighborhood but that only lent itself to the allure of the night.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been here since Covid and I’m
Shocked at how far downhill it’s gone. So much business turnover, dangerous scooter riding, elevators being out everywhere, aggressive dogs even on the metro and owners mishandling them, ZERO working escalators on the DOT side of the navy yard metro exit to name a few. Customer service is also bad a lot of places it’s so so dirty.

I don’t remember it being this way even two years ago. What changed?

You kidding?!
Back in the day when I'd ride a Monday morning shuttle from there to the Pentagon, I always would see smoldering cars at Buzzards Point that had been stolen and set on fire over the weekend.

When I was in college and the clubs were there, we used to pay people to watch our cars. This used to be real rough. The bougie stuff is a cresting wave than will fall back

Anonymous wrote:I am amazed at how crazy and great it is. What are you even talking about?

Same. Although too many dogs for my liking but that’s a matter of preference.

I am amazed at how crazy and great it is. What are you even talking about?

I don't think the neighborhood you remember went downhill somehow. It seems more that the phase you remember was a blip on its timeline. That neighborhood has changed so much over the years, who knows what kind of a place it'll be when stable.

See if you can find this film, it was free on youtube for a while but now I can't find it. Chocolate City - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1896729/

I’ve been here since Covid and I’m
Shocked at how far downhill it’s gone. So much business turnover, dangerous scooter riding, elevators being out everywhere, aggressive dogs even on the metro and owners mishandling them, ZERO working escalators on the DOT side of the navy yard metro exit to name a few. Customer service is also bad a lot of places it’s so so dirty.

I don’t remember it being this way even two years ago. What changed?