Anonymous
05/01/2025 11:19
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
Anonymous wrote:Eliminating taxes on tips (not “executive bonuses”, as some here try to claim), taxes on overtime earnings, and allowing tax deductions for payments and interest on US-manufactured vehicles all sound like things that would benefit working class and middle class Americans, as well as spur massive growth in the US manufacturing economy, with the associated spill-over effects that would be seen in other industries connected to it.
Many DCUM posters praise themselves as champions of lower income people, so why do these same posters decry proposals like the three above?
Can one of you please explain this? Because those are the sort of ideas that seem like the type that would be supported by people who insist they are champions for lower income people. People like most of you here.
But instead, those proposals are castigated here. And I’d like to understand why so many of you feel that way?
Is it simply because Trump proposed them? Is that the only reason? Because unless there’s some other compelling reason, it seems like an absurdly childish act.
So…. why, then?
Have any of those things been added to this piece of legislation? Or are they just things Trump says at rallies?
Anonymous
05/01/2025 11:05
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
Eliminating taxes on tips (not “executive bonuses”, as some here try to claim), taxes on overtime earnings, and allowing tax deductions for payments and interest on US-manufactured vehicles all sound like things that would benefit working class and middle class Americans, as well as spur massive growth in the US manufacturing economy, with the associated spill-over effects that would be seen in other industries connected to it.
Many DCUM posters praise themselves as champions of lower income people, so why do these same posters decry proposals like the three above?
Can one of you please explain this? Because those are the sort of ideas that seem like the type that would be supported by people who insist they are champions for lower income people. People like most of you here.
But instead, those proposals are castigated here. And I’d like to understand why so many of you feel that way?
Is it simply because Trump proposed them? Is that the only reason? Because unless there’s some other compelling reason, it seems like an absurdly childish act.
So…. why, then?
Many DCUM posters praise themselves as champions of lower income people, so why do these same posters decry proposals like the three above?
Can one of you please explain this? Because those are the sort of ideas that seem like the type that would be supported by people who insist they are champions for lower income people. People like most of you here.
But instead, those proposals are castigated here. And I’d like to understand why so many of you feel that way?
Is it simply because Trump proposed them? Is that the only reason? Because unless there’s some other compelling reason, it seems like an absurdly childish act.
So…. why, then?
Anonymous
05/01/2025 10:36
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
,,,on the other hand, billionaires shouldn't have to use their hard earned windfall gains for taxes, so we all need to chip in and help them out.
Anonymous
05/01/2025 10:35
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
Anonymous wrote:House Oversight Committee Rolls Back benefits for all federal employees. High 3 pension moves to high 5 pension. Makes ALL federal employees pay 4.4% towards their pension (feds hired before 2014 pay a lower amount). This will be an automatic reduction in pay for long-serving employees.
https://rollcall.com/2025/04/30/oversight-panel-endorses-cuts-to-federal-retirement-system/
The changes to federal pensions are evil. It's like open season on federal employees. The Republican thing about having to create faux enemies to rail against is exhausting.
Anonymous
05/01/2025 10:35
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:House Oversight Committee Rolls Back benefits for all federal employees. High 3 pension moves to high 5 pension. Makes ALL federal employees pay 4.4% towards their pension (feds hired before 2014 pay a lower amount). This will be an automatic reduction in pay for long-serving employees.
https://rollcall.com/2025/04/30/oversight-panel-endorses-cuts-to-federal-retirement-system/
Why would anyone want to work for our government now?
Think about how fast (slow af) and intelligent (idiotic) your local DMV workers are. That's about to be the level of employees in all federal branches.
That is their goal.
Anonymous
05/01/2025 10:34
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
Anonymous wrote:House Oversight Committee Rolls Back benefits for all federal employees. High 3 pension moves to high 5 pension. Makes ALL federal employees pay 4.4% towards their pension (feds hired before 2014 pay a lower amount). This will be an automatic reduction in pay for long-serving employees.
https://rollcall.com/2025/04/30/oversight-panel-endorses-cuts-to-federal-retirement-system/
Why would anyone want to work for our government now?
Think about how fast (slow af) and intelligent (idiotic) your local DMV workers are. That's about to be the level of employees in all federal branches.
Anonymous
05/01/2025 10:06
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
House Oversight Committee Rolls Back benefits for all federal employees. High 3 pension moves to high 5 pension. Makes ALL federal employees pay 4.4% towards their pension (feds hired before 2014 pay a lower amount). This will be an automatic reduction in pay for long-serving employees.
https://rollcall.com/2025/04/30/oversight-panel-endorses-cuts-to-federal-retirement-system/
https://rollcall.com/2025/04/30/oversight-panel-endorses-cuts-to-federal-retirement-system/
Anonymous
05/01/2025 10:00
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
Start sharing details of Republican plans in their one big beautiful bill.
I'll start: Republicans voted for a new national tax on cars to be collected by every state government.
$200 for electric vehicles
$100 for hybrid vehicles
They dropped a proposal for a $20 for regular motor vehicles in committee, but it was in their original language.
I'll start: Republicans voted for a new national tax on cars to be collected by every state government.
$200 for electric vehicles
$100 for hybrid vehicles
They dropped a proposal for a $20 for regular motor vehicles in committee, but it was in their original language.
Anonymous
04/15/2025 15:07
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
So an additional tax on people making over a million per year
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-15/millionaire-tax-hike-talks-gain-steam-as-trump-signals-openness
I mean, I am all for it, but I don't think this is what the 1% was counting on - though with a gutted IRS, who is going to enforce it.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-15/millionaire-tax-hike-talks-gain-steam-as-trump-signals-openness
I mean, I am all for it, but I don't think this is what the 1% was counting on - though with a gutted IRS, who is going to enforce it.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:43
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
Anonymous wrote:−244.63 (4.48%)today
It's definitely the right time to cut Medicaid!
(I think the markets were falling way before this vote. The markets are just one more nail.)
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:41
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
−244.63 (4.48%)today
Anonymous
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:32
Subject: Big Beaiutful Bill
Please remember to put content in your posts.
Anonymous
04/10/2025 13:00
Subject: Big Beautiful Bill
So about this Big Beautiful Bill that the House just voted for - I thought the Senate bill was two bills, this first one and a second one that will deal with the tax cuts to be dealt with later.
Isn't this the opposite of Trump's Big Beautiful Bill? It is actually Two Beautiful Bills, only one of which is going forward right now?
Isn't this the opposite of Trump's Big Beautiful Bill? It is actually Two Beautiful Bills, only one of which is going forward right now?