Anonymous
04/09/2025 07:53
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:trump used a national emergency designation as a basis
Haven't other presidents done this as well?
No, the law Trump is using has never been used to impose tariffs.
But other Presidents have declared national emergencies to support their political agendas?
Anonymous
04/09/2025 07:50
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
And to the extent Congress has delegated this power, it would be subject to the same restrictions as any other agency. And with the demise of Chevron, no deference need be given to Trump and his tariff "experts".
Anonymous
04/09/2025 06:55
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
This is what Grok said:
Trump is primarily using the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) of 1977 to impose tariffs in his second term, declaring national emergencies over issues like fentanyl, illegal immigration, and trade deficits to justify duties such as 25% on Canada and Mexico and 10% on China and all imports. He also leverages Section 232 and Section 301 of existing trade laws, which delegate tariff authority from Congress for national security or unfair trade practices. While IEEPA’s use for tariffs is novel and controversial, potentially overstepping its intent, these actions rest on broad statutory powers, though they face legal challenges for possibly violating Congress’s constitutional tariff authority.
Trump is primarily using the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) of 1977 to impose tariffs in his second term, declaring national emergencies over issues like fentanyl, illegal immigration, and trade deficits to justify duties such as 25% on Canada and Mexico and 10% on China and all imports. He also leverages Section 232 and Section 301 of existing trade laws, which delegate tariff authority from Congress for national security or unfair trade practices. While IEEPA’s use for tariffs is novel and controversial, potentially overstepping its intent, these actions rest on broad statutory powers, though they face legal challenges for possibly violating Congress’s constitutional tariff authority.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 06:47
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:trump used a national emergency designation as a basis
Haven't other presidents done this as well?
No, the law Trump is using has never been used to impose tariffs.
Anonymous
04/09/2025 06:37
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
Anonymous wrote:trump used a national emergency designation as a basis
Haven't other presidents done this as well?
Anonymous
04/09/2025 03:29
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
trump used a national emergency designation as a basis
Anonymous
04/09/2025 01:48
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
Anonymous wrote:Congress gave the power to levy tariffs to the president. They could take it back, but so far they haven't.
I thought they had enough republicans who would vote to take it back? This is when everyone needs to contact their democratic reps and demand that they stop watching from the sidelines and do something
Anonymous
04/08/2025 22:14
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
Anonymous wrote:Congress gave the power to levy tariffs to the president. They could take it back, but so far they haven't.
The law Trump is relying on doesn’t even have the word “tariff” in it.
Anonymous
Anonymous
04/08/2025 21:49
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
Anonymous wrote:Yes, Congress has the power of the purse. Impoundment is illegal and tariffs are the province of Congress, not the executive.
There's already one lawsuit, and it won't be long until there are others.
+1.
Anonymous
Anonymous
04/08/2025 21:03
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
Congress has all sorts of powers enumerated in the Constitution, but the current GOP leadership has simply ceded it to Trump. Go figure.
Anonymous
04/08/2025 20:58
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
Congress gave the power to levy tariffs to the president. They could take it back, but so far they haven't.
Anonymous
04/08/2025 20:54
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
Yes, Congress has the power of the purse. Impoundment is illegal and tariffs are the province of Congress, not the executive.
There's already one lawsuit, and it won't be long until there are others.
There's already one lawsuit, and it won't be long until there are others.
Anonymous
04/08/2025 20:43
Subject: But Congress has the tariff power, not the president!
I'm three steps behind--Congress has the power of the purse. Only Congress can decide to impose tariffs--on goods, not entire countries! Where is Congress in this?
And now, to go three steps ahead: I think Trump's plan is to make our economy so weak, and our country so vulnerable to China and to Russia, who are recruiting fired federal employees, that Trump will declare martial law. He's already declared it on the southern border.
Please, help me stay sane.
And now, to go three steps ahead: I think Trump's plan is to make our economy so weak, and our country so vulnerable to China and to Russia, who are recruiting fired federal employees, that Trump will declare martial law. He's already declared it on the southern border.
Please, help me stay sane.