Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't really turn the world's economic order on its head and not expect repercussions. And now that the United States has demonstrated it's no longer a serious nation, but instead one that can be jerked around and will jerk around others based on the whims of a felonious, idiotic shithead, good luck putting that genie back in the bottle. Many people are going to have their retirements shattered and many businesses will fail.

"one that can be jerked around" - True. That has been happening for decades.

"will jerk around others" - Should have happened decades ago, but didn't.

"on the whims of a felonious, idiotic shithead" - But...no one else took action.

"good luck putting that genie back in the bottle" - Agreed. Gonna be wild.

"Many people are going to have their retirements shattered" - The same people who were driving G-Wagons, because ...stonks!! ? The average person has very little exposure to the capital markets, this is only affecting the wealthy. They can take it.

"many businesses will fail" - Should have happened decades ago. All these zombie companies that exists solely because we kept cost of money so low for so long...

This is actually a good point. It’s been documented that the top 10% wealthiest Americans own 90% of all stocks. Trump seems OK crashing the market in service of establishing more equitable global trade for the American worker and creating middle-class jobs.

I know most people here think that his plan is doomed to fail, but you have to at least acknowledge that he’s the first president in decades (if not longer) to be willing to tolerate/inflict pain on the wealthy in service of advancing the middle class.

The bleeding-heart DCUM liberals should, if nothing else, be supportive of that in principle. Instead, everyone here seems more concerned with their retirement accounts. Tsk, tsk, tsk - bad liberals!

The stock market trades on projected future earnings. This is strong signaling that earnings are in peril. Which means that people and businesses aren't buying, businesses aren't investing, followed by fewer workers working, etc. This impacts everybody. Maybe you know that, though and are just providing weak cover for the moron-in-chief.

Welp. There goes the two back to back +20% years.

We need the retirement accounts because globalization killed defined benefit pensions. In addition to blue collar jobs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can't really turn the world's economic order on its head and not expect repercussions. And now that the United States has demonstrated it's no longer a serious nation, but instead one that can be jerked around and will jerk around others based on the whims of a felonious, idiotic shithead, good luck putting that genie back in the bottle. Many people are going to have their retirements shattered and many businesses will fail.

"one that can be jerked around" - True. That has been happening for decades.

"will jerk around others" - Should have happened decades ago, but didn't.

"on the whims of a felonious, idiotic shithead" - But...no one else took action.

"good luck putting that genie back in the bottle" - Agreed. Gonna be wild.

"Many people are going to have their retirements shattered" - The same people who were driving G-Wagons, because ...stonks!! ? The average person has very little exposure to the capital markets, this is only affecting the wealthy. They can take it.

"many businesses will fail" - Should have happened decades ago. All these zombie companies that exists solely because we kept cost of money so low for so long...

This is actually a good point. It’s been documented that the top 10% wealthiest Americans own 90% of all stocks. Trump seems OK crashing the market in service of establishing more equitable global trade for the American worker and creating middle-class jobs.

I know most people here think that his plan is doomed to fail, but you have to at least acknowledge that he’s the first president in decades (if not longer) to be willing to tolerate/inflict pain on the wealthy in service of advancing the middle class.

The bleeding-heart DCUM liberals should, if nothing else, be supportive of that in principle. Instead, everyone here seems more concerned with their retirement accounts. Tsk, tsk, tsk - bad liberals!

I think there's a lot further to fall. I expect the S&P 500 to drop at least 30% from peak - maybe more.

Anonymous wrote:You can't really turn the world's economic order on its head and not expect repercussions. And now that the United States has demonstrated it's no longer a serious nation, but instead one that can be jerked around and will jerk around others based on the whims of a felonious, idiotic shithead, good luck putting that genie back in the bottle. Many people are going to have their retirements shattered and many businesses will fail.

"one that can be jerked around" - True. That has been happening for decades.

"will jerk around others" - Should have happened decades ago, but didn't.

"on the whims of a felonious, idiotic shithead" - But...no one else took action.

"good luck putting that genie back in the bottle" - Agreed. Gonna be wild.

"Many people are going to have their retirements shattered" - The same people who were driving G-Wagons, because ...stonks!! ? The average person has very little exposure to the capital markets, this is only affecting the wealthy. They can take it.

"many businesses will fail" - Should have happened decades ago. All these zombie companies that exists solely because we kept cost of money so low for so long...

Anonymous wrote:You can calculate the bottom by taking the top 50 public traded, erase all their international profits, increase labor costs by 10%, and then adjust according to the average of last quater PE ratio.

Long term they will boost domestic profit, but will take about 5 years to bring capacity online.

Wow. I’m off to tell my husband that manages a hedge fund about your formula! You sure are smart.

Anonymous wrote:You can calculate the bottom by taking the top 50 public traded, erase all their international profits, increase labor costs by 10%, and then adjust according to the average of last quater PE ratio.

Long term they will boost domestic profit, but will take about 5 years to bring capacity online.

That doesn't take either increased input costs or decreased domestic consumer demand into effect.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that plays out tomorrow, that would be -15% in 3 days! That is unreal...

Buy the dip.

I dare you. The professionals aren’t.

Anonymous wrote:You can calculate the bottom by taking the top 50 public traded, erase all their international profits, increase labor costs by 10%, and then adjust according to the average of last quater PE ratio.

Long term they will boost domestic profit, but will take about 5 years to bring capacity online.

Dream on, and have some more of that Kool Aid while you're waiting for the Trump miracle.

We're all getting to see up close and personal how he managed to end up inb bankruptcy five times. There has never been a more mediocre white man in the nation's history.

You can't really turn the world's economic order on its head and not expect repercussions. And now that the United States has demonstrated it's no longer a serious nation, but instead one that can be jerked around and will jerk around others based on the whims of a felonious, idiotic shithead, good luck putting that genie back in the bottle. Many people are going to have their retirements shattered and many businesses will fail.

You can calculate the bottom by taking the top 50 public traded, erase all their international profits, increase labor costs by 10%, and then adjust according to the average of last quater PE ratio.

Long term they will boost domestic profit, but will take about 5 years to bring capacity online.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that plays out tomorrow, that would be -15% in 3 days! That is unreal...

Buy the dip.

Yeah that worked well on the two previous down days.

Anonymous wrote:If that plays out tomorrow, that would be -15% in 3 days! That is unreal...

Buy the dip.

If that plays out tomorrow, that would be -15% in 3 days! That is unreal...