Disagree.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How so?

Every school now admits 20%ish QuestBridge. Under test optional, QB students do not need to submit test scores. The pressure to maintain profile is much lower.

Under test required regime, 20% QB students are admitted with low test score, e.g., 1300. The pressure becomes enormous for the test required school to admit high stats students to achieve the same average score.

This is just uninformed nonsense. The number of QB kids is typically around 1% and the rest is equally incorrect.

Swarthmore has 24% QB admits.
[url]https://www.questbridge.org/partners/college-partners/swarthmore-college
[/url]You are welcome.

The assumption is QB admits have lower scores. This is probably also true for athletes, legacy, URM, and other hooks.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How so?

Every school now admits 20%ish QuestBridge. Under test optional, QB students do not need to submit test scores. The pressure to maintain profile is much lower.

Under test required regime, 20% QB students are admitted with low test score, e.g., 1300. The pressure becomes enormous for the test required school to admit high stats students to achieve the same average score.

This is just uninformed nonsense. The number of QB kids is typically around 1% and the rest is equally incorrect.

Swarthmore has 24% QB admits.
[url]https://www.questbridge.org/partners/college-partners/swarthmore-college
[/url]You are welcome.

Anonymous wrote:How so?

Every school now admits 20%ish QuestBridge. Under test optional, QB students do not need to submit test scores. The pressure to maintain profile is much lower.

Under test required regime, 20% QB students are admitted with low test score, e.g., 1300. The pressure becomes enormous for the test required school to admit high stats students to achieve the same average score.

This is just uninformed nonsense. The number of QB kids is typically around 1% and the rest is equally incorrect.

How so?

Every school now admits 20%ish QuestBridge. Under test optional, QB students do not need to submit test scores. The pressure to maintain profile is much lower.

Under test required regime, 20% QB students are admitted with low test score, e.g., 1300. The pressure becomes enormous for the test required school to admit high stats students to achieve the same average score.

I think you need to take into account what percentage of their enrolled first-years submitted Scores (the only stat on this released in common data set... would love to know accepted). There are TO schools that clearly really like a good score and TO schools that are happy to take most kids TO. In the latter case, sure your scores help but they are fine taking kids without scores that are a good fit in other ways.

It is also just hard to predict. My very high stats kid last year got into a couple top 20s, including one of the harder-to-get-into Ivies but got wait-listed at schools ranked in the 20-30s.

The wrinkle is the yield algorithm. While high scores help the academic profile of the student, a TO applicant is more likely to yield

It's counter-intuitive, but I am arguing for a high stats student it's more advantageous to apply for TO schools. A TO school tends to maintain a high test score profile while admitting 40% of freshman without scores. For the test required schools, every applicant has a decent score so they have a large pool to select from. A high stats student is quite common in that pool.

Agree?