Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 09:13     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
I'm not being disingenuous - this is the thread I referenced:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200567.page#27335481

Apples and oranges seems fair. I just remember lots and lots of posts about Columbia (which I mostly ignored although I do have thoughts about their approach & that of many other colleges) -- and also, I never read the political forum which I suspect is true for a lot of people who are just thinking through where to send their kids to college. Hence my position, which is not intended to be, nor is, actually, disingenuous. Like I said, your call, I'm just a disappointed stranger to you who has participated in DCUM for years.
jsteele
Post 03/28/2025 09:01     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
Anonymous wrote:If you read my post, then you know that there's been a lot of discussion within the Tufts community -- of which I am a member -- about the *university's* response to this incident. A petition that had 1500+ signers as of last night (not me). I am not *singling out* Tufts -- I am echoing posts by, say, Columbia grads, which *you* allowed for pages and pages *in the college forum*, to discuss the Columbia administration's response to student activism. You seem to have a double standard here, and I am not sure why, but my intentions are to provide prospective parents -- and fellow Tufts community members on DCUM -- with the same kind of discussion as you provided the Columbia community over the past year. My sticking point is with *your* burying the topic and insisting that it is purely political despite *not* holding the same standard to similar discussions of activity at other universities and colleges. But, as you often note, it's your private website & you can do as you see fit. I'm just disappointed in you -- which is why I didn't drop it, honestly. Sucks to have your heroes be human after all!


You are being disingenuous. I am not aware of any thread in the College forum about the abduction of the Columbia student. There was a wider discussion about Trump's crackdown on Columbia that I locked.

I really don't have time to discuss this, but you are trying to compare one university administration's reaction to a government-sponsored kidnapping to another university administration's reaction to ongoing activism on their campus. Those are apples and oranges.

You are also wrong that I am burying the discussion. The Political forum has far more activity than any other forum on the website. It sometimes has more traffic then the rest of the website combined (that is not as true these days due to the massive increase in interest in the jobs forum). If you would simply participate in the thread, it would get plenty of attention.

Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 08:52     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
If you read my post, then you know that there's been a lot of discussion within the Tufts community -- of which I am a member -- about the *university's* response to this incident. A petition that had 1500+ signers as of last night (not me). I am not *singling out* Tufts -- I am echoing posts by, say, Columbia grads, which *you* allowed for pages and pages *in the college forum*, to discuss the Columbia administration's response to student activism. You seem to have a double standard here, and I am not sure why, but my intentions are to provide prospective parents -- and fellow Tufts community members on DCUM -- with the same kind of discussion as you provided the Columbia community over the past year. My sticking point is with *your* burying the topic and insisting that it is purely political despite *not* holding the same standard to similar discussions of activity at other universities and colleges. But, as you often note, it's your private website & you can do as you see fit. I'm just disappointed in you -- which is why I didn't drop it, honestly. Sucks to have your heroes be human after all!
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 08:48     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:She was detained by the government, not by the university. The university can do anything about it, the government can. It is completely a political issue.


OP again - why was the Columbia activism thread in >>colleges then? How is this different? If I spoke of Tufts admin policies as relates to this issue would it merit a >>colleges thread or not?

Tufts students tell me that they find it ironic that President Kumar suggested in his letter to the community (which has been widely reported) that international students who fear for their safety due to ICE or other threats immediately call TUPD, given that many pro-Palestine protestors allege TUPD misconduct:

[url]https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2024/03/students-allege-police-aggression-at-nov-17-protest-for-palestine
[/url]


There are over a million threads on this site. You can't expect total consistency among all of them. I explained why I moved your thread. But it's late and I am not going to spend the evening debating all the other threads.


On a topic that is extremely important to the future of our country, like free speech and the ability to stand up to Israel, and also highly emotive, I do expect consistency and you should too, Jeff.
jsteele
Post 03/28/2025 08:46     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Not newsworthy, huh? You can see from my posting history that I am a longtime community member, and am not a troll. I have been a helpful, informative DCUM member for decades. I am really surprised that you are suppressing info about this situation. Immediate deletion of the post about the Tufts petition, which cites 2 newspapers? Wow, I am honestly surprised. I have respected you very much over the years and this honestly stings. I have always wished you the best with this business and am hoping that you are trying to protect your business interests and not, in fact, just suppressing speech you disagree with.


I am not suppressing anything. In fact, I wrote about the Tufts student myself in my blog post yesterday:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/weblog/2025/03/27/update032725

You started your post saying, "Hi Jeff, I know there's another thread...". That makes the post appear to be something that belongs in Website Feedback rather than the College forum. Plus, as you say, there is another thread already.

I am not sure why you are so determined to post about this incident, which is clearly a political topic, in the college forum. As I document in my blog post, students have been abducted from Tufts, Columbia, Georgetown, and the University of Alabama. Yesterday, Marco Rubio says he has revoked over 300 student visas. This is a problem that extends far beyond Tufts. There is an argument for a thread addressing how the Trump administration's attack on free speech is impacting colleges and universities, but that is different that a single thread singling out Tufts.
Anonymous
Post 03/28/2025 08:21     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
Not newsworthy, huh? You can see from my posting history that I am a longtime community member, and am not a troll. I have been a helpful, informative DCUM member for decades. I am really surprised that you are suppressing info about this situation. Immediate deletion of the post about the Tufts petition, which cites 2 newspapers? Wow, I am honestly surprised. I have respected you very much over the years and this honestly stings. I have always wished you the best with this business and am hoping that you are trying to protect your business interests and not, in fact, just suppressing speech you disagree with.
jsteele
Post 03/26/2025 22:03     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:She was detained by the government, not by the university. The university can do anything about it, the government can. It is completely a political issue.


OP again - why was the Columbia activism thread in >>colleges then? How is this different? If I spoke of Tufts admin policies as relates to this issue would it merit a >>colleges thread or not?

Tufts students tell me that they find it ironic that President Kumar suggested in his letter to the community (which has been widely reported) that international students who fear for their safety due to ICE or other threats immediately call TUPD, given that many pro-Palestine protestors allege TUPD misconduct:

[url]https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2024/03/students-allege-police-aggression-at-nov-17-protest-for-palestine
[/url]


There are over a million threads on this site. You can't expect total consistency among all of them. I explained why I moved your thread. But it's late and I am not going to spend the evening debating all the other threads.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2025 21:48     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
jsteele wrote:She was detained by the government, not by the university. The university can do anything about it, the government can. It is completely a political issue.


OP again - why was the Columbia activism thread in >>colleges then? How is this different? If I spoke of Tufts admin policies as relates to this issue would it merit a >>colleges thread or not?

Tufts students tell me that they find it ironic that President Kumar suggested in his letter to the community (which has been widely reported) that international students who fear for their safety due to ICE or other threats immediately call TUPD, given that many pro-Palestine protestors allege TUPD misconduct:

[url]https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2024/03/students-allege-police-aggression-at-nov-17-protest-for-palestine
[/url]
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2025 21:33     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
What in the world do you think Tufts can do about it? These people don’t care about due process.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2025 21:32     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
With a college student I am absolutely horrified. Many of us were a bit mouthy and/or political in our youth. It is what makes America a free country! This is bonkers horrifying!
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2025 21:28     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
I disagree but obviously your call as it's your site. How Tufts admin responds to this is absolutely of interest to both current and prospective parents.
jsteele
Post 03/26/2025 21:04     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
She was detained by the government, not by the university. The university can do anything about it, the government can. It is completely a political issue.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2025 20:30     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
Particularly since she was detained solely because she wrote an op-ed critical of the Tufts President.
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2025 20:23     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
Agree, I would want to know. It happened, why keep it difficult to find information?
Anonymous
Post 03/26/2025 20:18     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE - why not in colleges?
Hi Jeff - Why did you move the Tufts student being detained from colleges to political? I put it there for a reason - parents choosing colleges should know what's happening to current students.