If we don’t do it the Chinese will.

How many articles about the Collins are going to be pushed into the media in 2025? This is the same psycho couple from the WaPo article this year and the Vice segment from last year. Remember her, she said seat belt laws were preventing people from having more children and should be abolished. They're the couple who got caught slapping their child in the fasce on video and posting it for clicks. They're both autistic, yet screen their embryo for eugenic purposes. The woman also said she would have as many children as possible until her uterus exploded or she died. She also dressed all Handmaid's Tale for their WaPo photo shoot.

Their publicist must be working on overdrive. They're disgusting and dumb.

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that trauma can make IQ functionally unusable, and having Nazis for parents is traumatic. I doubt this will work out the way the “genetically elite” think.

How is this any different than marrying someone that has a similar personality or is good looking. Both traits have a genetic component and people don’t pick their spouses randomly. Not sure how this is functionally any different. It’s dramatic to call this being a nazi.

The results will be entertaining. Lay people really don't understand that when you select for one trait, especially one as polygenic and complex as intelligence, you almost always inadvertently select for other less desirable traits and against other more desirable traits as well. The law of unintended consequences holds strong in this context.

Moreover, I wonder if any of the parents trying to select for IQ fully understand that very high intelligence is not the exclusive domain of well-adjusted or traditionally successful people. Intelligence in itself is simply not useful in society. It has to be combined with personal traits, upbringing, and life experiences that make its expression in a socially rewarded way possible. Otherwise, vast intelligence can actually be unusable (see schizophrenia), counterproductive (see severer forms of autism) and/or dangerous (see antisocial personality disorder).

Some of the most intellectually advanced people I have ever encountered--in terms of raw IQ; the capacity for strategic, complex, and high-level thinking; and preternatural self-control--have also been inmates. Many of these men aren't crazy in any sense. They are very lucid and very intentional. They have just chosen to apply their superior abilities to defrauding, abusing, or outright hunting their fellow humans. They choose to amass victims, not wealth or accolades.

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Anonymous wrote:IQ doesn't make elite. Look at Trump and Musk

I’m not sure that Trumps is very high. Also he’s like 80 now so past his prime.

Yeah, I don’t think that Trump was ever very smart. Elon is probably a little above average. Multiple people that knew him have said that he’s definitely no genius.

This is bananas. Literally. We did this with bananas, remember? Bred for exclusively one type, leaving them without the genetic diversity needed to survive.

Only a clown would do this.

This is an inevitable development given mankind’s scientific advances. People with means are going to pre-order and configure their kids if it’s an option. I think it will only be a matter of time before women don’t even have to carry kids, they can just stop by and pick them up when they are ready. I suppose it would be good for their careers.

Anonymous wrote:IQ doesn't make elite. Look at Trump and Musk

I’m not sure that Trumps is very high. Also he’s like 80 now so past his prime.

IQ doesn't make elite. Look at Trump and Musk

The problem is that trauma can make IQ functionally unusable, and having Nazis for parents is traumatic. I doubt this will work out the way the “genetically elite” think.

Anonymous wrote:AI will make this moot. You're not gonna be the smartest no matter how much you IQ discriminate. Some clown with an AI doodad will out stoichiometry you in a heartbeat.

People who are smart know that AI isn't going to replace smart human beings - it's going to be a great tool though.

A scary development they're working on is inserting human brain cells in robots.

Anonymous wrote:AI will make this moot. You're not gonna be the smartest no matter how much you IQ discriminate. Some clown with an AI doodad will out stoichiometry you in a heartbeat.

Hmm that’s a good point. Maybe, but we don’t know whether AI is likely to plateau at some point or if it will continue increasing exponentially. Even then I would think that more intelligent people would still be able to use AI more effectively and efficiently. So it might confer a long-term advantage to family social status.

AI will make this moot. You're not gonna be the smartest no matter how much you IQ discriminate. Some clown with an AI doodad will out stoichiometry you in a heartbeat.

So apparently rich people are screening embryos for IQ now and picking the smartest ones. https://investigations.hopenothate.org.uk/superbaby-factory/
Do people think that the early adopter families will pull away from the rest of society and create a permanent group of genetic elites over time? It seems that this would quickly entrench the advantages of the wealthy as they presumably will be less likely to get diseases, be smarter and less likely to get mental illnesses. What are peoples thoughts on the long-term social implications of this practice? Also, do you think it’s a scam or are you interested in using it?