Anonymous
Post 03/23/2025 08:12     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If by shorter duration, you mean less than nine days, it would not be a “novena,” which by definition requires nine days.

If what you are seeking is a briefer, less wordy, less editorial set of prayers, you should be able to find online something to suit you. Many of the older novenas have a lot of ancillary material that is intended to increase devotion and promote the appropriate spiritual orientation.

Keep in mind that none of this is magic. You’re asking God, ordinarily via the intercession of a Saint, for a particular favor. The prayer is really for your benefit. God already knows what you want and need. The novena is an aid to focus and to putting trust in God.



It's not magic? It sure sounds like magic - asking God, via the intercession of a saint, for a favor. And you're asking God to do something that He already knows you want and need.


While your puerile carping and religion-envy do not merit a response, I’ll provide one. As I pointed out, the primary beneficiary of the prayer is the person praying and ultimately the individual prayed for. Prayer is raising the heart and mind to God. Christianity teaches to ask for our needs. The goal is conformity with God’s will and an increase in spiritual connection. Prayer is a mystery. Magic is a trick.


Better that you had not responded, because your response was not very Christian.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 16:02     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If by shorter duration, you mean less than nine days, it would not be a “novena,” which by definition requires nine days.

If what you are seeking is a briefer, less wordy, less editorial set of prayers, you should be able to find online something to suit you. Many of the older novenas have a lot of ancillary material that is intended to increase devotion and promote the appropriate spiritual orientation.

Keep in mind that none of this is magic. You’re asking God, ordinarily via the intercession of a Saint, for a particular favor. The prayer is really for your benefit. God already knows what you want and need. The novena is an aid to focus and to putting trust in God.



It's not magic? It sure sounds like magic - asking God, via the intercession of a saint, for a favor. And you're asking God to do something that He already knows you want and need.


While your puerile carping and religion-envy do not merit a response, I’ll provide one. As I pointed out, the primary beneficiary of the prayer is the person praying and ultimately the individual prayed for. Prayer is raising the heart and mind to God. Christianity teaches to ask for our needs. The goal is conformity with God’s will and an increase in spiritual connection. Prayer is a mystery. Magic is a trick.


God taught us to love thy neighbor as thyself. Nothing about puerile carping and religion-envy.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 12:46     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If by shorter duration, you mean less than nine days, it would not be a “novena,” which by definition requires nine days.

If what you are seeking is a briefer, less wordy, less editorial set of prayers, you should be able to find online something to suit you. Many of the older novenas have a lot of ancillary material that is intended to increase devotion and promote the appropriate spiritual orientation.

Keep in mind that none of this is magic. You’re asking God, ordinarily via the intercession of a Saint, for a particular favor. The prayer is really for your benefit. God already knows what you want and need. The novena is an aid to focus and to putting trust in God.



It's not magic? It sure sounds like magic - asking God, via the intercession of a saint, for a favor. And you're asking God to do something that He already knows you want and need.


While your puerile carping and religion-envy do not merit a response, I’ll provide one. As I pointed out, the primary beneficiary of the prayer is the person praying and ultimately the individual prayed for. Prayer is raising the heart and mind to God. Christianity teaches to ask for our needs. The goal is conformity with God’s will and an increase in spiritual connection. Prayer is a mystery. Magic is a trick.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 12:36     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

Anonymous wrote:If by shorter duration, you mean less than nine days, it would not be a “novena,” which by definition requires nine days.

If what you are seeking is a briefer, less wordy, less editorial set of prayers, you should be able to find online something to suit you. Many of the older novenas have a lot of ancillary material that is intended to increase devotion and promote the appropriate spiritual orientation.

Keep in mind that none of this is magic. You’re asking God, ordinarily via the intercession of a Saint, for a particular favor. The prayer is really for your benefit. God already knows what you want and need. The novena is an aid to focus and to putting trust in God.



It's not magic? It sure sounds like magic - asking God, via the intercession of a saint, for a favor. And you're asking God to do something that He already knows you want and need.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 10:21     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

If by shorter duration, you mean less than nine days, it would not be a “novena,” which by definition requires nine days.

If what you are seeking is a briefer, less wordy, less editorial set of prayers, you should be able to find online something to suit you. Many of the older novenas have a lot of ancillary material that is intended to increase devotion and promote the appropriate spiritual orientation.

Keep in mind that none of this is magic. You’re asking God, ordinarily via the intercession of a Saint, for a particular favor. The prayer is really for your benefit. God already knows what you want and need. The novena is an aid to focus and to putting trust in God.

Anonymous
Post 03/22/2025 10:08     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

This all sounds so sad to me.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 22:43     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

To answer OP’s question, I think it’s the intent that matters. If you’re saying Jesus wept nine times to try to get out of it fast….that’s not going to count for much.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 21:11     Subject: Re:Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

Anonymous wrote:Apparently, you can’t read the whimsical tone of the PP.


Are you PP? What are you saying?
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 20:57     Subject: Re:Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

Apparently, you can’t read the whimsical tone of the PP.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 20:36     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

Do a storm novena if you are short on time.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 20:34     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

Neither matters. Do you really believe this matters?
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 20:33     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

Anonymous wrote:God is not a bean counter


The Catholic God counts beans.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 20:06     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

God is not a bean counter
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 19:58     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

Anonymous wrote:Looking for a shorter nine day novena cycle. Does it matter if it’s short?


THe shorter the novena the longer time in Purgatory
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 11:51     Subject: Catholics: does a shorter novena count the same as a longer one?

Looking for a shorter nine day novena cycle. Does it matter if it’s short?