Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 08:16     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:January 6th is everything to me


I was traumatized by that and can't fathom how the Republicans rationalize it.


Just had a day long argument with my mother, who'd rationalizing why it's OK my spouse just got fired from the feds, and she seems to think J6 was only about 4-6 hours long, so it's implausible that 1,500 or more would be arrested and convicted. That there must be shenanigans in the prosecution somehow.

I asked her if she had read the Jan 6 committee report. https://www.amazon.com/January-6-Report-6th-Committee/dp/0063315505. Nope.

Or Jack Smith's report. https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/report-of-special-counsel-smith-volume-1-january-2025.pdf Nope.

Or Michael Fanone's book. Nope. Harry Dunn's? Nope. Aquilino Gonell's? Nope.

The Breach by a Republican congressman? Perhaps more believable to her. Nope. https://www.amazon.com/Breach-Untold-Story-Investigation-January/dp/1250866766

Has she viewed body worn camera footage? Nope.

Everyone needs to go to primary sources. The days are over where media was a reliable secondary source of information.



So sorry about your spouse losing their job to fed cuts.

That must be so stressful for you trying to talk reason to your brainwashed mother. My DIL has a similar problem with both her parents who gets their news from Fox and Facebook. It is very frustrating and painful for her to not be able to get through with reason and credible sources.

I totally agree about primary sources. Thanks for that great list !

Best wishes and sending you a virtual hug.


Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 08:10     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

Dems need to, as Ezra Klein put it, face why Trump won.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/democrats-need-to-face-why-trump-won/id1548604447?i=1000699618199

They need to stop their need for political purity and their resulting in-fighting. It's ridiculous to call for Schumer's resignation. It's the same as the GOP calling for judges to be impeached.

They need to refocus their message on the working class. The people barely surviving through a gig economy, with inflation and possibly stagflation coming their way. They need to look at whole systems to understand why there are housing shortages and not primarily focus on helping the most vulnerable. Don't stop helping them, but that can't be your main messaging. Your messaging has to be we are all in this together. Let's create opportunity for all, so that all can thrive.

You have to stop demonizing whole classes of people. Police, white men, Karens. Republicans themselves. It feels good. I get it. I feel it too. But you are alienating half the nation. We talk about being inclusive. Walk the walk. Include those you disagree with. Make genuine room for diversity of perspective too.

Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 08:09     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

Trump just takes everything from Dems and reframes it, simplifies it and idiots believe it.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 08:08     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart is ridiculing Dem leadership.
People want to dump Schumer for caving.
What would be an attack plan that makes sense?
I almost wish we had a parliamentary system right now, a dozen parties and coalitions forming and reforming.


I actually agree with Schumer that not funding government would have been a field day for Trump.

He has done a great job over the years .

But I also think we need younger, fresher leadership. Not too young as experience and judgment is needed.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 08:04     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart is ridiculing Dem leadership.
People want to dump Schumer for caving.
What would be an attack plan that makes sense?
I almost wish we had a parliamentary system right now, a dozen parties and coalitions forming and reforming.


You have that right now.

You booted out Tulsi, RFK Jr, Rogan, Musk, and even Trump for Liz Cheney/Dick Cheney. Personally, I would not have done that trade.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 08:01     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:January 6th is everything to me


I was traumatized by that and can't fathom how the Republicans rationalize it.


Just had a day long argument with my mother, who'd rationalizing why it's OK my spouse just got fired from the feds, and she seems to think J6 was only about 4-6 hours long, so it's implausible that 1,500 or more would be arrested and convicted. That there must be shenanigans in the prosecution somehow.

I asked her if she had read the Jan 6 committee report. https://www.amazon.com/January-6-Report-6th-Committee/dp/0063315505. Nope.

Or Jack Smith's report. https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/report-of-special-counsel-smith-volume-1-january-2025.pdf Nope.

Or Michael Fanone's book. Nope. Harry Dunn's? Nope. Aquilino Gonell's? Nope.

The Breach by a Republican congressman? Perhaps more believable to her. Nope. https://www.amazon.com/Breach-Untold-Story-Investigation-January/dp/1250866766

Has she viewed body worn camera footage? Nope.

Everyone needs to go to primary sources. The days are over where media was a reliable secondary source of information.

Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 07:41     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

Anonymous wrote:January 6th is everything to me


I was traumatized by that and can't fathom how the Republicans rationalize it.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 07:40     Subject: Re:What SHOULD Dems do?

How about

What should Americans do?
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 07:38     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

I love elimination of all the fraud, waste and abuse. There should be more cuts to federal spending. More fat can be trimmed.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 07:33     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

Elected Republicans are equally responsible to stand up for democracy, not just the Democrats.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 07:07     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

January 6th is everything to me
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 01:50     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

In short, the campaign, the goal is to fire him.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2025 01:47     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

Impeach, remove from office ... That's it. The president is not faithfully executing our laws -- the highest crime imaginable. That's the message the opposition needs to have from now until the midterms. Win a majority in house. 67 votes in the senate. Don't care if all think it's impossible. Make that the singular goal. Make it the only topic. Our nation does great at simple things. He does xyz, fine, ok, let's impeach him and remove him from office. Nothing else matters. That on repeat for the next 18 months. Rally everyone against him or what he does around this singular goal.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2025 23:35     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

Identify a talented and young leader that can energize a resistance and then hit the road traveling all across America educating average americans about the crisis we face. Basic leadership. The leader should organize a plan. Skip the protests. Nobody cares about protests. They just make the protestors look crazy. See BLM for an example.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2025 23:31     Subject: What SHOULD Dems do?

Jon Stewart is ridiculing Dem leadership.
People want to dump Schumer for caving.
What would be an attack plan that makes sense?
I almost wish we had a parliamentary system right now, a dozen parties and coalitions forming and reforming.