Nope

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Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not. He wasn't "Me Tooed."He was rightfully shooed out because he harassed women. There are no shortage of good candidates. We don't need to go with the another bad actor

OP here. Yes, I know he's a bad guy from the moral standpoint. I am not talking about that. I am talking about whether or not he can win.

And I'm saying who cares? We will just end up with another corrupt sexist in office. Seriously. Eff that guy when there are tons of other winners.

+1000 2028 will be a repeat of 2020 and 2024 when the incumbent party is at a huge disadvantage due to the sitting president being very unpopular. The incumbent party never wins in this situation. Dems need to take advantage of this 2028 election gift with an elite candidate who is capable of winning a second term in 2032. Cuomo isn't that elite candidate just as much as Biden wasn't that elite candidate.

Who is the MOST elite candidate at the moment? I agree with you that we don’t even know the name of our next Obama yet (or we barely know it) and the right person could emerge from a fair primary. But, hypothetically, if we knew the DNC would decide, and they’d take you advice, and it had to happen today, who are the types of people who would make your short list?

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Anonymous wrote:His pierced nipples will certainly endear him to LGBTQIA+ folk.

What kind of old straight man has pierced nipples? A weirdo, that’s who.

A weirdo with a powerful man kind if sex life. A weirdo who dates much younger women. A weirdo who ran New York. It’s embarrassing in one way, but it’s a sign of prowess in another. Celibate folks don’t get nipple piercings.

All of the successful Democratic Presidential candidates of the past 45 years have had weird sex rumors swirling around them. Whether assault accusations, gay sex fantasies, or being considered too huggy/sniffy with women and children. These winners do much better than goody two shoes candidates like Mondale and Dukakis. We’re basically chimpanzees, and we want to be led by aloha males, and alpha males take what they want. This is also why Trump and Berlusconi types win. It’s sad, but the effect is real. Cuomo isn’t perfect at all, but he is alpha. Voters will forgive him for hooking up with and/or flirting with attractive members of his own staff. I’m sorry, but I seriously think Cuomo would beat Buttigieg. Specifically because of the alpha factor and the sexual factor. I’m not talking about homophobia, although of course that exists. It’s that Pete is beta and seems asexual. His husband is supposedly the only man he has ever been with or even gone on a date with. That’s not good on the “women want him and men want to be him” front. Or take a John Kerry, although he’s too old of course. But as an example, straight, landed a rich gal, not bad. But people can tell he’s kind of wheedling with the ladies, whereas Cuomo asks for and usually gets what he wants. Chris Cuomo is better looking and much more age appropriate. But his problem is that he’s less of an aloha than he should be, specifically because he was the eager beaver little brother to a stern alpha! Anyway, we’ll see. Newsom has some sex appeal. Although the fact that he married someone who had been “with” Harvey Weinstein and stayed friends with him afterward take some if the sheen off his alpha. Anyway, I’m rAmbling. My point is, don’t forget we are monkeys. It’s more predictive than you think.

Anonymous wrote:His pierced nipples will certainly endear him to LGBTQIA+ folk.

What kind of old straight man has pierced nipples? A weirdo, that’s who.

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Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not. He wasn't "Me Tooed."He was rightfully shooed out because he harassed women. There are no shortage of good candidates. We don't need to go with the another bad actor

OP here. Yes, I know he's a bad guy from the moral standpoint. I am not talking about that. I am talking about whether or not he can win.

And I'm saying who cares? We will just end up with another corrupt sexist in office. Seriously. Eff that guy when there are tons of other winners.

+1000 2028 will be a repeat of 2020 and 2024 when the incumbent party is at a huge disadvantage due to the sitting president being very unpopular. The incumbent party never wins in this situation. Dems need to take advantage of this 2028 election gift with an elite candidate who is capable of winning a second term in 2032. Cuomo isn't that elite candidate just as much as Biden wasn't that elite candidate.

The worst thing about Cuomo for us is his Covid sins. Democrat enthusiasm for destructive Covid protocols is an underappreciated reason for our current troubles. It’s THE most important reason people hate dcurbanmom types and call us Karens, moreso than our embrace of migrants and trans folk.

Cuomo would remind everyone of our terrible behavior—closing schools, mandating masks, trying to get people fired, being cruel to our own neighbors and family members—and would remind everyone that we never apologized for ANY of it. Most of us secretly still believe we helped save the world by working from home. By 2028, hopefully swing voters will have forgotten to some extent. But not if we bring in Cuomo. He’s a poster child for Covid protocols. Lockdowns, daily briefings, and even…killing granny by commanding that active Covid infections be transferred to nursing homes. He’s triple threat!

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Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not. He wasn't "Me Tooed."He was rightfully shooed out because he harassed women. There are no shortage of good candidates. We don't need to go with the another bad actor

OP here. Yes, I know he's a bad guy from the moral standpoint. I am not talking about that. I am talking about whether or not he can win.

And I'm saying who cares? We will just end up with another corrupt sexist in office. Seriously. Eff that guy when there are tons of other winners.

His pierced nipples will certainly endear him to LGBTQIA+ folk.

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Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not. He wasn't "Me Tooed."He was rightfully shooed out because he harassed women. There are no shortage of good candidates. We don't need to go with the another bad actor

OP here. Yes, I know he's a bad guy from the moral standpoint. I am not talking about that. I am talking about whether or not he can win.

The MeToo thing was egregious and part of a pattern. Plus, no one wants to relive the pandemic, which is how most Americans know him. He'd never win a primary. Not happening.

Anonymous wrote:Even before he announced he was going to run for mayor of New York City, I had long thought that Cuomo is a dark horse for 2028. He has the tough guy persona and charisma that Democrats are completely lacking right now. He also has great political instincts and is not going to hitch his wagon to any unpopular, unworkable ideology for the sake of purity.

I know he was Me Tooed out of office and I thought he deserved that. I am not even going to touch the pandemic issues. But right now, today, leaving aside personal dislike of the man, I think he could win over swing voters. I also think he could help Democrats address the male voter problem. He is probably the only male Democrat right now who embodies the virile man's man and isn't faking it unconvincingly.

Can anyone picture JD Vance or even prime 2016 Trump getting the last word on Cuomo in a debate?

Thoughts?

Cuomo would be over 70 years old if starting a first POTUS term in 2029. Have we not yet learned our lesson regarding the inherent risks of electing 1st term presidents over the age of 70?

Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely not. He wasn't "Me Tooed."He was rightfully shooed out because he harassed women. There are no shortage of good candidates. We don't need to go with the another bad actor

OP here. Yes, I know he's a bad guy from the moral standpoint. I am not talking about that. I am talking about whether or not he can win.

He should appoint his lying scummy Fredo to be his running mate.

No. Absolutely not. He wasn't "Me Tooed."He was rightfully shooed out because he harassed women. There are no shortage of good candidates. We don't need to go with the another bad actor

Even before he announced he was going to run for mayor of New York City, I had long thought that Cuomo is a dark horse for 2028. He has the tough guy persona and charisma that Democrats are completely lacking right now. He also has great political instincts and is not going to hitch his wagon to any unpopular, unworkable ideology for the sake of purity.

I know he was Me Tooed out of office and I thought he deserved that. I am not even going to touch the pandemic issues. But right now, today, leaving aside personal dislike of the man, I think he could win over swing voters. I also think he could help Democrats address the male voter problem. He is probably the only male Democrat right now who embodies the virile man's man and isn't faking it unconvincingly.

Can anyone picture JD Vance or even prime 2016 Trump getting the last word on Cuomo in a debate?

Thoughts?