Yes honestly when I work my program the food chatter stops. Along with all the other hamster wheel thinking. 12 steps for eating disorders get no love here but it worked for me maintaining a 170 pound loss for 46 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

If you’re willing to be open and explore why you crave the dopamine hit you get from anticipating food (similar to a sex accident with sex, a gambler with gambling, a drug addict with drugs, a shopping addict with shopping…) then yes, it could potentially help you. I’m willing to bet you likely feel awful after giving in to these cravings, and like you have no control over them (like a sex addict with sex, gambler with gambling, drug addict from drugs, shopping addiction from shopping…) All addictions start with trauma.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

I lost 40 lbs on ozempic and can still enjoy tasting menus and food, I just eat less of it. Even before Ozempic I was already finding that multi course menus made me too full and uncomfortable later. And the health benefits that come from losing weight far outweigh the downside of not being able to eat a huge meal.

OPs “friend” is probably on too high a dose or maybe not under a doctors supervision. Also after the first few months the weight loss slows down in any event.

I thought it also slows digestion, which leaves you feeling full longer. That process causes what is known as "ozempic breath." Between the gaunt face and bad breath, I don't think it's worth it for only 20 lbs. I think 50+ lbs and health issues justifies it.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Is this a real question? Because there are lots of health problems associated with obesity.

Equally, there are lots of health problems associated with being underweight. Both are a strain. I’m not convinced losing weight that quickly is healthy, either.

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Is this a real question? Because there are lots of health problems associated with obesity.

My doctor doesn't know. He thinks one thing is it stops plateauing during loss. But he is not advocating it for me to lose 20 pounds at 70+.

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Anonymous wrote:Apparently, it makes food less appealing .

I am not sure they know how it works exactly. Especially since it seems to solve every problem under the sun.

Considering evolution, however, a drug that leaves you “forcing yourself” to eat an all seems counter to survival.

This is a really good point. Also, it seems unsustainable once use is discontinued?

So I’m guessing I’m right to assume that it’s basically glorified anorexia, essentially. (I say that with no harm meant towards those with mental illness; my mother has struggled with anorexia her whole life, even now into her 70s.)

Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Apparently, it makes food less appealing .

I am not sure they know how it works exactly. Especially since it seems to solve every problem under the sun.

Considering evolution, however, a drug that leaves you “forcing yourself” to eat an all seems counter to survival.

she’s probably overdosing she needs to see her pcp

Last night I saw a friend I haven’t seen since around Christmas. She’s on Ozempic and is wasting away. I was shocked when I saw how thin she’s gotten in just three months. She said she’s never hungry and has to force herself to eat, and when she does eat, she can’t eat much.

Do these type of meds to anything to the body, or do they basically just force you to essentially starve yourself? I’m worried for my friend.