Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.
So my child is at a disadvantage being at an elementary school in McLean. I would assume half or more of the school parent referred and all these kids tested well.
Yes, for sure. That is a complaint every year. You will see as the result posts come out that if you are in Langley or McLean pyramids you will see lots of kiddos with 97th percentiles and higher not getting in to AAP whereas kids in Annandale routinely get in with scores in the lower to mid 90s.
The local norms are meant to meet the needs of the kids at a particular school. Schools with lower scoring kids should have a program that looks different then kids at a higher scoring school. The top kids at a title 1 school are not going to have their needs met in the class at their school but they are not as likely to hit the threshold at a higher SES school. So those kids should be stuck in a class that nowhere meets their needs because they have not had the same academic exposure as a kid from McLean or Navy or Crossfield or whatever MC to UMC school we select?
The UMC ES should be including more challenging material in their gen ed classes because most of their students can handle it. That is the solution. That is pretty much what the cluster programs are doing. All of the kids are being exposed to the LIV material. Some cluster programs have an additional math pull outs for the LIV and Advanced Math kids, that is what our school is doing.
This is the "equitable" approach. Basically people are punished for buying homes in high performing/high SES areas. Children who are highly advanced for their grade will not be challenged because there are many students in the building who are in the same boat.
I am all for giving the top kids at title 1 schools opportunity to advance.
I’m not sure why the kids at UMC have to be hurt in the process.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.
So my child is at a disadvantage being at an elementary school in McLean. I would assume half or more of the school parent referred and all these kids tested well.
Yes, for sure. That is a complaint every year. You will see as the result posts come out that if you are in Langley or McLean pyramids you will see lots of kiddos with 97th percentiles and higher not getting in to AAP whereas kids in Annandale routinely get in with scores in the lower to mid 90s.
The local norms are meant to meet the needs of the kids at a particular school. Schools with lower scoring kids should have a program that looks different then kids at a higher scoring school. The top kids at a title 1 school are not going to have their needs met in the class at their school but they are not as likely to hit the threshold at a higher SES school. So those kids should be stuck in a class that nowhere meets their needs because they have not had the same academic exposure as a kid from McLean or Navy or Crossfield or whatever MC to UMC school we select?
The UMC ES should be including more challenging material in their gen ed classes because most of their students can handle it. That is the solution. That is pretty much what the cluster programs are doing. All of the kids are being exposed to the LIV material. Some cluster programs have an additional math pull outs for the LIV and Advanced Math kids, that is what our school is doing.
This is the "equitable" approach. Basically people are punished for buying homes in high performing/high SES areas. Children who are highly advanced for their grade will not be challenged because there are many students in the building who are in the same boat.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.
So my child is at a disadvantage being at an elementary school in McLean. I would assume half or more of the school parent referred and all these kids tested well.
Yes, for sure. That is a complaint every year. You will see as the result posts come out that if you are in Langley or McLean pyramids you will see lots of kiddos with 97th percentiles and higher not getting in to AAP whereas kids in Annandale routinely get in with scores in the lower to mid 90s.
The local norms are meant to meet the needs of the kids at a particular school. Schools with lower scoring kids should have a program that looks different then kids at a higher scoring school. The top kids at a title 1 school are not going to have their needs met in the class at their school but they are not as likely to hit the threshold at a higher SES school. So those kids should be stuck in a class that nowhere meets their needs because they have not had the same academic exposure as a kid from McLean or Navy or Crossfield or whatever MC to UMC school we select?
The UMC ES should be including more challenging material in their gen ed classes because most of their students can handle it. That is the solution. That is pretty much what the cluster programs are doing. All of the kids are being exposed to the LIV material. Some cluster programs have an additional math pull outs for the LIV and Advanced Math kids, that is what our school is doing.
This is the "equitable" approach. Basically people are punished for buying homes in high performing/high SES areas. Children who are highly advanced for their grade will not be challenged because there are many students in the building who are in the same boat.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.
So my child is at a disadvantage being at an elementary school in McLean. I would assume half or more of the school parent referred and all these kids tested well.
Yes, for sure. That is a complaint every year. You will see as the result posts come out that if you are in Langley or McLean pyramids you will see lots of kiddos with 97th percentiles and higher not getting in to AAP whereas kids in Annandale routinely get in with scores in the lower to mid 90s.
The local norms are meant to meet the needs of the kids at a particular school. Schools with lower scoring kids should have a program that looks different then kids at a higher scoring school. The top kids at a title 1 school are not going to have their needs met in the class at their school but they are not as likely to hit the threshold at a higher SES school. So those kids should be stuck in a class that nowhere meets their needs because they have not had the same academic exposure as a kid from McLean or Navy or Crossfield or whatever MC to UMC school we select?
The UMC ES should be including more challenging material in their gen ed classes because most of their students can handle it. That is the solution. That is pretty much what the cluster programs are doing. All of the kids are being exposed to the LIV material. Some cluster programs have an additional math pull outs for the LIV and Advanced Math kids, that is what our school is doing.
But FCPS sets the curriculum for the county, not individual schools, so Gen Ed teachers must follow the curriculum as it is laid out for them. How much do teachers have leeway to expand it? I'm sure their hours are already tight to cover the curriculum they are required to cover.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.
So my child is at a disadvantage being at an elementary school in McLean. I would assume half or more of the school parent referred and all these kids tested well.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.
So my child is at a disadvantage being at an elementary school in McLean. I would assume half or more of the school parent referred and all these kids tested well.
Yes, for sure. That is a complaint every year. You will see as the result posts come out that if you are in Langley or McLean pyramids you will see lots of kiddos with 97th percentiles and higher not getting in to AAP whereas kids in Annandale routinely get in with scores in the lower to mid 90s.
The local norms are meant to meet the needs of the kids at a particular school. Schools with lower scoring kids should have a program that looks different then kids at a higher scoring school. The top kids at a title 1 school are not going to have their needs met in the class at their school but they are not as likely to hit the threshold at a higher SES school. So those kids should be stuck in a class that nowhere meets their needs because they have not had the same academic exposure as a kid from McLean or Navy or Crossfield or whatever MC to UMC school we select?
The UMC ES should be including more challenging material in their gen ed classes because most of their students can handle it. That is the solution. That is pretty much what the cluster programs are doing. All of the kids are being exposed to the LIV material. Some cluster programs have an additional math pull outs for the LIV and Advanced Math kids, that is what our school is doing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.
So my child is at a disadvantage being at an elementary school in McLean. I would assume half or more of the school parent referred and all these kids tested well.
Yes, for sure. That is a complaint every year. You will see as the result posts come out that if you are in Langley or McLean pyramids you will see lots of kiddos with 97th percentiles and higher not getting in to AAP whereas kids in Annandale routinely get in with scores in the lower to mid 90s.
The local norms are meant to meet the needs of the kids at a particular school. Schools with lower scoring kids should have a program that looks different then kids at a higher scoring school. The top kids at a title 1 school are not going to have their needs met in the class at their school but they are not as likely to hit the threshold at a higher SES school. So those kids should be stuck in a class that nowhere meets their needs because they have not had the same academic exposure as a kid from McLean or Navy or Crossfield or whatever MC to UMC school we select?
The UMC ES should be including more challenging material in their gen ed classes because most of their students can handle it. That is the solution. That is pretty much what the cluster programs are doing. All of the kids are being exposed to the LIV material. Some cluster programs have an additional math pull outs for the LIV and Advanced Math kids, that is what our school is doing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.
So my child is at a disadvantage being at an elementary school in McLean. I would assume half or more of the school parent referred and all these kids tested well.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.
So my child is at a disadvantage being at an elementary school in McLean. I would assume half or more of the school parent referred and all these kids tested well.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.
So my child is at a disadvantage being at an elementary school in McLean. I would assume half or more of the school parent referred and all these kids tested well.
Yes, for sure. That is a complaint every year. You will see as the result posts come out that if you are in Langley or McLean pyramids you will see lots of kiddos with 97th percentiles and higher not getting in to AAP whereas kids in Annandale routinely get in with scores in the lower to mid 90s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.
So my child is at a disadvantage being at an elementary school in McLean. I would assume half or more of the school parent referred and all these kids tested well.
Anonymous wrote:One school at a time is what I have read here. Also their attempt to make sure they are comparing students of the same building giving the top students of each school a chance to be in the program. Committee members look at students that are not from their school as to remove bias.