Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 22:54     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Can she pass the proficiency test?


I have no idea, is there any info about that online? I didn't realize there was a test.


If she can't pass the test, they will send her to Tubman (unless you make another plan). We also considered Bancroft and moving to Mount Pleasant and talked to the school and knew we needed to do it before 1st grade (we didn't). Because the other kids are doing so much of the actual learning in Spanish (not learning the language, but learning content *in Spanish*), she would be missing too much instruction.


You can still send her to Deal and JR for middle and high school. Find another solution for 3/4/5.


She is so far ahead of grade level that I'm not that worried about her losing a year - most of her recent test scores came back at the 4th-5th grade level. She's also extremely motivated to get fluent and we'd put her in immersion summer camp to prepare before starting. My main question is - is this a rule the school has or a recommendation that we can disregard?

I'd rather not find another option because we have a younger kid and I don't want to split them up. It would be so disappointing that a neighborhood school is off the table by age 8 because of this.


Yes, I see what you mean -- I think it would be comparable to her moving to a new country and starting school in a new language (though one she is familiar with). Kids I know in that situation were lost for 6 months but then they were OK. If she's a bright girl, it would work.

You'll get a lot of answers from the school about the test.



It’s actually nothing like this because when you move to a new country your kid is constantly exposed to the new language. That isn’t true if your kid goes to Bancroft (kids on the playground will be using English, so will friends at play dates, etc)


Yeah, but I agree with the OP parent... If the rules somehow allow it, I think it's worth a shot. Also, funnily enough on this anonymous forum, but I feel like I might actually know who this girl is and she is EXTREMELY smart. So I can see why the parents think it will work.


DP but I know our school would require a test before entry to prove fluency. If the kid is really that bright, they should be working diligently now to get them up to speed on reading and writing in Spanish so they can come in at, or near, grade level. Immersion camp isn’t enough prep to pop into a language program that late. If you go the immersion camps, the kids are still speaking English on the playground.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 22:46     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can she pass the proficiency test?


I have no idea, is there any info about that online? I didn't realize there was a test.


If she can't pass the test, they will send her to Tubman (unless you make another plan). We also considered Bancroft and moving to Mount Pleasant and talked to the school and knew we needed to do it before 1st grade (we didn't). Because the other kids are doing so much of the actual learning in Spanish (not learning the language, but learning content *in Spanish*), she would be missing too much instruction.


You can still send her to Deal and JR for middle and high school. Find another solution for 3/4/5.


She is so far ahead of grade level that I'm not that worried about her losing a year - most of her recent test scores came back at the 4th-5th grade level. She's also extremely motivated to get fluent and we'd put her in immersion summer camp to prepare before starting. My main question is - is this a rule the school has or a recommendation that we can disregard?

I'd rather not find another option because we have a younger kid and I don't want to split them up. It would be so disappointing that a neighborhood school is off the table by age 8 because of this.


Yes, I see what you mean -- I think it would be comparable to her moving to a new country and starting school in a new language (though one she is familiar with). Kids I know in that situation were lost for 6 months but then they were OK. If she's a bright girl, it would work.

You'll get a lot of answers from the school about the test.



It’s actually nothing like this because when you move to a new country your kid is constantly exposed to the new language. That isn’t true if your kid goes to Bancroft (kids on the playground will be using English, so will friends at play dates, etc)


+1 on all of this.

Are they reading, writing and spelling on grade level in Spanish?
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 22:34     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can she pass the proficiency test?


I have no idea, is there any info about that online? I didn't realize there was a test.


If she can't pass the test, they will send her to Tubman (unless you make another plan). We also considered Bancroft and moving to Mount Pleasant and talked to the school and knew we needed to do it before 1st grade (we didn't). Because the other kids are doing so much of the actual learning in Spanish (not learning the language, but learning content *in Spanish*), she would be missing too much instruction.


You can still send her to Deal and JR for middle and high school. Find another solution for 3/4/5.


She is so far ahead of grade level that I'm not that worried about her losing a year - most of her recent test scores came back at the 4th-5th grade level. She's also extremely motivated to get fluent and we'd put her in immersion summer camp to prepare before starting. My main question is - is this a rule the school has or a recommendation that we can disregard?

I'd rather not find another option because we have a younger kid and I don't want to split them up. It would be so disappointing that a neighborhood school is off the table by age 8 because of this.


Yes, I see what you mean -- I think it would be comparable to her moving to a new country and starting school in a new language (though one she is familiar with). Kids I know in that situation were lost for 6 months but then they were OK. If she's a bright girl, it would work.

You'll get a lot of answers from the school about the test.



It’s actually nothing like this because when you move to a new country your kid is constantly exposed to the new language. That isn’t true if your kid goes to Bancroft (kids on the playground will be using English, so will friends at play dates, etc)


Yeah, but I agree with the OP parent... If the rules somehow allow it, I think it's worth a shot. Also, funnily enough on this anonymous forum, but I feel like I might actually know who this girl is and she is EXTREMELY smart. So I can see why the parents think it will work.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 21:16     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can she pass the proficiency test?


I have no idea, is there any info about that online? I didn't realize there was a test.


If she can't pass the test, they will send her to Tubman (unless you make another plan). We also considered Bancroft and moving to Mount Pleasant and talked to the school and knew we needed to do it before 1st grade (we didn't). Because the other kids are doing so much of the actual learning in Spanish (not learning the language, but learning content *in Spanish*), she would be missing too much instruction.


You can still send her to Deal and JR for middle and high school. Find another solution for 3/4/5.


She is so far ahead of grade level that I'm not that worried about her losing a year - most of her recent test scores came back at the 4th-5th grade level. She's also extremely motivated to get fluent and we'd put her in immersion summer camp to prepare before starting. My main question is - is this a rule the school has or a recommendation that we can disregard?

I'd rather not find another option because we have a younger kid and I don't want to split them up. It would be so disappointing that a neighborhood school is off the table by age 8 because of this.


Yes, I see what you mean -- I think it would be comparable to her moving to a new country and starting school in a new language (though one she is familiar with). Kids I know in that situation were lost for 6 months but then they were OK. If she's a bright girl, it would work.

You'll get a lot of answers from the school about the test.



It’s actually nothing like this because when you move to a new country your kid is constantly exposed to the new language. That isn’t true if your kid goes to Bancroft (kids on the playground will be using English, so will friends at play dates, etc)
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 20:54     Subject: 3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

If she's likely to get a 4 or 5 on the CAPE they may be more interested in taking her to improve their test scores, so I would mention how high above grade level she currently is (use iready or dibels or whatever they'd be familiar with)
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 19:37     Subject: 3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Definitely call the school. They may be willing to work with her if she’s able to mostly keep up, even if she’s not in grade level, but it really is up to them. Which Saturday Spanish school is she doing? Can she read and write in Spanish?
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 19:28     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can she pass the proficiency test?


I have no idea, is there any info about that online? I didn't realize there was a test.


If she can't pass the test, they will send her to Tubman (unless you make another plan). We also considered Bancroft and moving to Mount Pleasant and talked to the school and knew we needed to do it before 1st grade (we didn't). Because the other kids are doing so much of the actual learning in Spanish (not learning the language, but learning content *in Spanish*), she would be missing too much instruction.


You can still send her to Deal and JR for middle and high school. Find another solution for 3/4/5.


She is so far ahead of grade level that I'm not that worried about her losing a year - most of her recent test scores came back at the 4th-5th grade level. She's also extremely motivated to get fluent and we'd put her in immersion summer camp to prepare before starting. My main question is - is this a rule the school has or a recommendation that we can disregard?

I'd rather not find another option because we have a younger kid and I don't want to split them up. It would be so disappointing that a neighborhood school is off the table by age 8 because of this.


Yes, I see what you mean -- I think it would be comparable to her moving to a new country and starting school in a new language (though one she is familiar with). Kids I know in that situation were lost for 6 months but then they were OK. If she's a bright girl, it would work.

You'll get a lot of answers from the school about the test.

Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 17:28     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can she pass the proficiency test?


I have no idea, is there any info about that online? I didn't realize there was a test.


If she can't pass the test, they will send her to Tubman (unless you make another plan). We also considered Bancroft and moving to Mount Pleasant and talked to the school and knew we needed to do it before 1st grade (we didn't). Because the other kids are doing so much of the actual learning in Spanish (not learning the language, but learning content *in Spanish*), she would be missing too much instruction.


You can still send her to Deal and JR for middle and high school. Find another solution for 3/4/5.


She is so far ahead of grade level that I'm not that worried about her losing a year - most of her recent test scores came back at the 4th-5th grade level. She's also extremely motivated to get fluent and we'd put her in immersion summer camp to prepare before starting. My main question is - is this a rule the school has or a recommendation that we can disregard?

I'd rather not find another option because we have a younger kid and I don't want to split them up. It would be so disappointing that a neighborhood school is off the table by age 8 because of this.

She has to pass the test.


Helpful, thank you. Is that a standard test I could access online? If not, can we take it before we commit to moving, or will they not administer it if she isn't in boundary?

Appreciate any info! I just can't find anything online.


I don’t think they would test unless you can enroll. But you should really call the school. I am sure your child is smart but if she can’t read on a 3rd grade level in Spanish with fluency and comprehension than I would look elsewhere.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 16:38     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can she pass the proficiency test?


I have no idea, is there any info about that online? I didn't realize there was a test.


If she can't pass the test, they will send her to Tubman (unless you make another plan). We also considered Bancroft and moving to Mount Pleasant and talked to the school and knew we needed to do it before 1st grade (we didn't). Because the other kids are doing so much of the actual learning in Spanish (not learning the language, but learning content *in Spanish*), she would be missing too much instruction.


You can still send her to Deal and JR for middle and high school. Find another solution for 3/4/5.


She is so far ahead of grade level that I'm not that worried about her losing a year - most of her recent test scores came back at the 4th-5th grade level. She's also extremely motivated to get fluent and we'd put her in immersion summer camp to prepare before starting. My main question is - is this a rule the school has or a recommendation that we can disregard?

I'd rather not find another option because we have a younger kid and I don't want to split them up. It would be so disappointing that a neighborhood school is off the table by age 8 because of this.

She has to pass the test.


Helpful, thank you. Is that a standard test I could access online? If not, can we take it before we commit to moving, or will they not administer it if she isn't in boundary?

Appreciate any info! I just can't find anything online.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 16:27     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can she pass the proficiency test?


I have no idea, is there any info about that online? I didn't realize there was a test.


If she can't pass the test, they will send her to Tubman (unless you make another plan). We also considered Bancroft and moving to Mount Pleasant and talked to the school and knew we needed to do it before 1st grade (we didn't). Because the other kids are doing so much of the actual learning in Spanish (not learning the language, but learning content *in Spanish*), she would be missing too much instruction.


You can still send her to Deal and JR for middle and high school. Find another solution for 3/4/5.


She is so far ahead of grade level that I'm not that worried about her losing a year - most of her recent test scores came back at the 4th-5th grade level. She's also extremely motivated to get fluent and we'd put her in immersion summer camp to prepare before starting. My main question is - is this a rule the school has or a recommendation that we can disregard?

I'd rather not find another option because we have a younger kid and I don't want to split them up. It would be so disappointing that a neighborhood school is off the table by age 8 because of this.

She has to pass the test.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 16:21     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can she pass the proficiency test?


I have no idea, is there any info about that online? I didn't realize there was a test.


If she can't pass the test, they will send her to Tubman (unless you make another plan). We also considered Bancroft and moving to Mount Pleasant and talked to the school and knew we needed to do it before 1st grade (we didn't). Because the other kids are doing so much of the actual learning in Spanish (not learning the language, but learning content *in Spanish*), she would be missing too much instruction.


You can still send her to Deal and JR for middle and high school. Find another solution for 3/4/5.


She is so far ahead of grade level that I'm not that worried about her losing a year - most of her recent test scores came back at the 4th-5th grade level. She's also extremely motivated to get fluent and we'd put her in immersion summer camp to prepare before starting. My main question is - is this a rule the school has or a recommendation that we can disregard?

I'd rather not find another option because we have a younger kid and I don't want to split them up. It would be so disappointing that a neighborhood school is off the table by age 8 because of this.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 16:07     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can she pass the proficiency test?


I have no idea, is there any info about that online? I didn't realize there was a test.


If she can't pass the test, they will send her to Tubman (unless you make another plan). We also considered Bancroft and moving to Mount Pleasant and talked to the school and knew we needed to do it before 1st grade (we didn't). Because the other kids are doing so much of the actual learning in Spanish (not learning the language, but learning content *in Spanish*), she would be missing too much instruction.


You can still send her to Deal and JR for middle and high school. Find another solution for 3/4/5.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 15:53     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Anonymous wrote:Can she pass the proficiency test?


I have no idea, is there any info about that online? I didn't realize there was a test.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 15:48     Subject: Re:3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Can she pass the proficiency test?
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 15:02     Subject: 3rd grader entering Bancroft from a non-Spanish school

Hi all,

We are at another DCPS elementary (not bilingual), but interested in moving to Mt. Pleasant. Our older kid would be entering 3rd grade. She goes to Spanish school on Saturday mornings and also has been to Spanish immersion summer camps in the past, so she's very familiar with the language and loves learning it. But she's not fluent by any stretch. She's also ahead of grade level in both reading and math, so she can afford to struggle for a year or so without falling behind. In other words, I'm fairly confident that she could thrive at Bancroft, and for what it's worth, she is begging us to send her.

Does anyone have insight as to whether the school would be willing to consider her? Their website says they don't recommend kids enroll after 1st grade, but I'm wondering if that's just a loose guideline or a strict rule?

Also, is Tubman the non-Spanish by-rights school for the neighborhood?

I'm going to try to call the school on Monday but wanted to gain any other intel here as well.

Thanks!