Anonymous
02/05/2025 13:08
Subject: What is T20
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.
Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...
HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt
SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona
Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA
Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC
Solid list, but I would suggest one correction. Instead of Pomona, it should be The Claremont Colleges, whose top colleges collectively include Pomona, Harvey Mudd, and Claremont McKenna.
Anonymous
02/05/2025 13:07
Subject: What is T20
Anonymous wrote:Okay, sockie. What's "UTA"?Anonymous wrote:Solid. I support this list.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.
Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...
HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt
SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona
Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA
Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC
Are you knew here? UT AUSTIN duh
Anonymous
02/05/2025 13:06
Subject: What is T20
Okay, sockie. What's "UTA"?Anonymous wrote:Solid. I support this list.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.
Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...
HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt
SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona
Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA
Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC
Anonymous
02/05/2025 13:03
Subject: What is T20
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.
Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...
HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt
SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona
Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA
Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC
Solid. I support this list.
Anonymous
02/05/2025 12:59
Subject: What is T20
Anonymous wrote:Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.
HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell -- pipeline to The Street!
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt
SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona
Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA
Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC
Anonymous
02/05/2025 12:54
Subject: What is T20
Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.
Let me preface this by saying it really depends on your major but...
HYPSM
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
The Rest of Ivy+
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Bucknell
Cornell
Dartmouth
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
Caltech
Washington U St. Louis
Rice
Vanderbilt
SLACs
Williams
Amherst
Swarthmore
Pomona
Public Ivies
Michigan
UVA
Cal
UCLA
UTA
Other Elite schools
Notre Dame
NYU
USC
Anonymous
02/05/2025 12:54
Subject: What is T20
There are so many competing lists out there now (btw selling ads against "best" lists is big $ business). Each has its own methodology and each is problematic for its own reasons. Some rely heavily on post-grad salaries, which means STEM or business schools make up most of the top of the list. Some heavily weigh Pell grant or other financial offers, making large state schools appear stronger than they actually are. Others might look at online student surveys about "happiness" (talk about random), or the percentage of the freshman class that graduates in X number of years.
Anonymous
02/05/2025 12:30
Subject: Re:What is T20
The idea of a numbered ranking for schools was popularized by USNWR, whose ranking is still by far the most influential. But they themselves distinguish between universities with national draw (national universities), LACs with national draw (national LACs), regional universities, and regional colleges. So they and people in academia usually specify the category when citing rank. The most well known are the national universities, though the smaller national liberal arts colleges as a category are similarly regarded for undergrad study, even if a bit less selective. USNWR themselves state their list is intended as an input to the college search and not the sole determinant.
Anonymous
02/05/2025 11:06
Subject: What is T20
Anonymous wrote:It usually means the US News list, OP.
However, U.S. News does not provide a general ranking of undergraduate schools.
Anonymous
02/05/2025 10:48
Subject: What is T20
It usually means the US News list, OP.
Anonymous
02/05/2025 10:47
Subject: What is T20
Anonymous wrote:It's the Top 20 schools according to the WSJ rankings.
Princeton University
Babson College
Stanford University
Yale University
Claremont McKenna College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Harvard University
University of California, Berkeley
Georgia Institute of Technology, Main Campus
Davidson College
Bentley University
University of California, Davis
University of Pennsylvania
Columbia University
Lehigh University
San José State University
University of Notre Dame
University of California, Merced
Virginia Tech
Harvey Mudd College
lol.
wrong list.
Anonymous
02/05/2025 10:25
Subject: What is T20
It's the Top 20 schools according to the WSJ rankings.
Princeton University
Babson College
Stanford University
Yale University
Claremont McKenna College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Harvard University
University of California, Berkeley
Georgia Institute of Technology, Main Campus
Davidson College
Bentley University
University of California, Davis
University of Pennsylvania
Columbia University
Lehigh University
San José State University
University of Notre Dame
University of California, Merced
Virginia Tech
Harvey Mudd College
Princeton University
Babson College
Stanford University
Yale University
Claremont McKenna College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Harvard University
University of California, Berkeley
Georgia Institute of Technology, Main Campus
Davidson College
Bentley University
University of California, Davis
University of Pennsylvania
Columbia University
Lehigh University
San José State University
University of Notre Dame
University of California, Merced
Virginia Tech
Harvey Mudd College
Anonymous
02/05/2025 10:22
Subject: What is T20
The problem with the term is that it's commonly used without a definition or a source. You may guess, however, that "T-20," particularly when used by internationals, refers to schools ranked 1 through 20 in the National Universities category of U.S. News. For a ranking inclusive of universities and undergraduate-focused schools, consider alternative sources, such as this one from WalletHub:
https://wallethub.com/edu/e/college-rankings/40750
https://wallethub.com/edu/e/college-rankings/40750
Anonymous
02/05/2025 09:34
Subject: What is T20
Anonymous wrote:I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.
There is no consistent answer. This thread will just lead to squabbling.
Anonymous
02/05/2025 09:10
Subject: What is T20
I see a lot here, googled it couldn't find any consistent answer.