Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 20:21     Subject: Re:A truly merit based system for college admissions.
There should be no teacher recommendations. These are racially biased.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 20:16     Subject: Re:A truly merit based system for college admissions.
Anonymous wrote:This is what they have in Asia...the best and the brightest float to the top. I would nix any consideration of GPA which relies far too heavily on effort.


Sure…except for the massive number of cheaters.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 20:14     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
Anonymous wrote:I was thinking of what a merit based system would look like: I've come up with a system where you get points based on your SAT or ACT score and your GPA. Those with the highest combination of the scores (can weight the SAT/ACT higher since there is a lot of grade inflation) would get first pick at any of the top schools and then it goes down the list. No more race to the top for extracurriculars- it would just be mainly studying super hard for the SAT. The top colleges would likely comprise of mostly high income , coastal elites but you couldn't argue much with this. Any thoughts? What do you think would be the most merit based system?


Why? I think the system we have is fine.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 20:12     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
It will be all Asians OP.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 20:08     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
Anonymous wrote:Would need to get rid of grade inflation & ensure that the education available to all comers was of the same quality. But, UK & European schools also follow this model in addition to Asia. They are just willing to accept that far fewer students will attend college. US has tried to broaden access in past 30 years.


No. There are societal implications to their model. There’s a reason why we have more entrepreneurs and inventors in the USA, by 5x more per capita than UK and Europe. And it’s because we tell our kids they Can do something - do difficult things, make it to college - be a doctor even if they went to community college first - vs UK and other countries that tell their kids they Can’t, and the doors close at 16
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 20:04     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
Anonymous wrote:Haven't we learned yet that people can be quite successful without top SATs?


Some people can be. In aggregate, high SAT people are more successful and low SAT people are less successful. On average and especially on the margins.

Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, high SAT, high LSAT. Successful presidents.

Joe Biden, low SAT, low LSAT. Unsuccessful president.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 20:01     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
what about sports and extra curriculars? Tbh i think it would be great to go back to SAT/ACT scores and class rank and GPAs. idk what you would do about athletes
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 19:55     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
Haven't we learned yet that people can be quite successful without top SATs?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 19:44     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
merit would be taking several subject tests created by the college or nationally simultaneously. Problem is that those who can test prep will so it's not equal across SES.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 19:43     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
Would need to get rid of grade inflation & ensure that the education available to all comers was of the same quality. But, UK & European schools also follow this model in addition to Asia. They are just willing to accept that far fewer students will attend college. US has tried to broaden access in past 30 years.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 19:39     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
Anonymous wrote:I was thinking of what a merit based system would look like: I've come up with a system where you get points based on your SAT or ACT score and your GPA. Those with the highest combination of the scores (can weight the SAT/ACT higher since there is a lot of grade inflation) would get first pick at any of the top schools and then it goes down the list. No more race to the top for extracurriculars- it would just be mainly studying super hard for the SAT. The top colleges would likely comprise of mostly high income , coastal elites but you couldn't argue much with this. Any thoughts? What do you think would be the most merit based system?


How about starting with speaking out against white supremacy that has infected many of the systems, including K-12 education?

When mediocre white guys can be Secretary of Defense , run HHS, or be POTUS, there's no such thing as "merit."

Even standardized testing in the U.S. come from racist origins.

Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 19:37     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
So, creative writing programs admit according to SAT scores? Schools of music? It’s irrelevant whether a political science major has interned with a congressman? Or whether a nursing applicant is already an EMT?

It sounds like you’re thinking of STEM only, if you think the SAT tells you all you need to know.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 19:37     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
Anonymous wrote:I was thinking of what a merit based system would look like: I've come up with a system where you get points based on your SAT or ACT score and your GPA. Those with the highest combination of the scores (can weight the SAT/ACT higher since there is a lot of grade inflation) would get first pick at any of the top schools and then it goes down the list. No more race to the top for extracurriculars- it would just be mainly studying super hard for the SAT. The top colleges would likely comprise of mostly high income , coastal elites but you couldn't argue much with this. Any thoughts? What do you think would be the most merit based system?


So, you admit that you are proposing a system where the elite can just buy their way in through the form of superior education and test prep.
On what planet is that "merit".
This cannot be a serious post.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 19:32     Subject: Re:A truly merit based system for college admissions.
This is what they have in Asia...the best and the brightest float to the top. I would nix any consideration of GPA which relies far too heavily on effort.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2025 19:30     Subject: A truly merit based system for college admissions.
I was thinking of what a merit based system would look like: I've come up with a system where you get points based on your SAT or ACT score and your GPA. Those with the highest combination of the scores (can weight the SAT/ACT higher since there is a lot of grade inflation) would get first pick at any of the top schools and then it goes down the list. No more race to the top for extracurriculars- it would just be mainly studying super hard for the SAT. The top colleges would likely comprise of mostly high income , coastal elites but you couldn't argue much with this. Any thoughts? What do you think would be the most merit based system?