Anonymous
02/02/2025 17:09
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is access to the treasury system so frightening?
He is on Twitter threatening to cut off specific payments to organizations he personally thinks shouldn’t receive them.
Sounds good to me. A lot of waste in government spending.
Take that up with Congress. Elon just can't unilaterally defund random projects that have veen appropriated for by Congress.
DP. So you see the justification for getting rid of USAID then. Glad we agree.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 17:07
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is access to the treasury system so frightening?
He is on Twitter threatening to cut off specific payments to organizations he personally thinks shouldn’t receive them.
Sounds good to me. A lot of waste in government spending.
That's irrelevant to what is happening, you moron.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 17:01
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone please share what he’s saying about this? I really don’t want to support X in any way by going on it. Thanks.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is access to the treasury system so frightening?
He is on Twitter threatening to cut off specific payments to organizations he personally thinks shouldn’t receive them.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885964969335808217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1885964969335808217%7Ctwgr%5E407388f9e1f76524831f3f02d2926bfdada74cab%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcurbanmom.com%2Fjforum%2Fposts%2Flist%2F30%2F1254556.page
Honestly, they think they are cutting off "fraudulent contractors," but in reality they are cutting of payments which have been provided for work done for the USG under contract. All contracts have provisions to have notice of problems and use approved mechanisms to suspend payments. There will doubtless be many, many lawsuits in which these plaintiffs will prevail and cost the USG multiples of what it would have cost to just take the time to do things properly.
For example, I am begging the Lutheran Services orgs mentioned in the X tweets to sue Elon Musk and Flynn for defamation -- saying that they are money-laundering operation. I hope Musk and Flynn are tied up in litigation and bankrupted just like Giuliani was by those election workers he defamed and that Musk has to pay a Fox News-sized settlement like Murdoch did to the Dominion Voting company.
Plus, suits of Musk directly will mean discovery on his communications, which I'm sure are wildly incriminating.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 16:41
Subject: Re:Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
he's got no idea if it is waste or not. He's just DOING ILLEGAL THINGS.
Seriously, he and all his little lackeys need to go to jail.
Seriously, he and all his little lackeys need to go to jail.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 16:34
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Anonymous wrote:Can someone please share what he’s saying about this? I really don’t want to support X in any way by going on it. Thanks.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is access to the treasury system so frightening?
He is on Twitter threatening to cut off specific payments to organizations he personally thinks shouldn’t receive them.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1885964969335808217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1885964969335808217%7Ctwgr%5E407388f9e1f76524831f3f02d2926bfdada74cab%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcurbanmom.com%2Fjforum%2Fposts%2Flist%2F30%2F1254556.page
Anonymous
02/02/2025 16:26
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Can someone please share what he’s saying about this? I really don’t want to support X in any way by going on it. Thanks.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is access to the treasury system so frightening?
He is on Twitter threatening to cut off specific payments to organizations he personally thinks shouldn’t receive them.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 15:44
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is access to the treasury system so frightening?
He is on Twitter threatening to cut off specific payments to organizations he personally thinks shouldn’t receive them.
Sounds good to me. A lot of waste in government spending.
Take that up with Congress. Elon just can't unilaterally defund random projects that have veen appropriated for by Congress.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 15:42
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
If you believe there's waste, let's lay the blame on congress and get them to cut the waste. If you believe there's fraud let's get the fraud. Most of it is Medicare fraud so we can start there. I don't want Musk deciding for us though.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is access to the treasury system so frightening?
He is on Twitter threatening to cut off specific payments to organizations he personally thinks shouldn’t receive them.
Sounds good to me. A lot of waste in government spending.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 15:36
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is access to the treasury system so frightening?
He is on Twitter threatening to cut off specific payments to organizations he personally thinks shouldn’t receive them.
Sounds good to me. A lot of waste in government spending.
I refuse to believe there are people as stupid as this. I hope this is trolling.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 15:32
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Anonymous wrote:Could the courts step in with an injunction related to the following section of the EO?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency
(b) Agency Heads shall take all necessary steps, in coordination with the USDS Administrator and to the maximum extent consistent with law, to ensure USDS has full and prompt access to all unclassified agency records, software systems, and IT systems. USDS shall adhere to rigorous data protection standards.
Isn't this what is giving them access to OPM, Treasury, and GSA systems?
Access to Treasury systems should be absolutely frightening to everyone.
No. What’s giving him access is the leaders of the agencies, under his control. In theory, a legit leader would say why giving access to treasury payments is not consistent with law. Apparently, they are saying it’s fine.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 15:29
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is access to the treasury system so frightening?
He is on Twitter threatening to cut off specific payments to organizations he personally thinks shouldn’t receive them.
Sounds good to me. A lot of waste in government spending.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 15:26
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Anonymous wrote:Why is access to the treasury system so frightening?
He is on Twitter threatening to cut off specific payments to organizations he personally thinks shouldn’t receive them.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 15:25
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Why is access to the treasury system so frightening?
Anonymous
02/02/2025 15:15
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Yes. Again we need lawyers to find the hooks here to secure an injunction to all of his activities. And did they adhere to rigorous data protection standards? No.
Anonymous
02/02/2025 14:40
Subject: Injunction for Section 4b of EO creating DOGE?
Could the courts step in with an injunction related to the following section of the EO?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency
(b) Agency Heads shall take all necessary steps, in coordination with the USDS Administrator and to the maximum extent consistent with law, to ensure USDS has full and prompt access to all unclassified agency records, software systems, and IT systems. USDS shall adhere to rigorous data protection standards.
Isn't this what is giving them access to OPM, Treasury, and GSA systems?
Access to Treasury systems should be absolutely frightening to everyone.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency
(b) Agency Heads shall take all necessary steps, in coordination with the USDS Administrator and to the maximum extent consistent with law, to ensure USDS has full and prompt access to all unclassified agency records, software systems, and IT systems. USDS shall adhere to rigorous data protection standards.
Isn't this what is giving them access to OPM, Treasury, and GSA systems?
Access to Treasury systems should be absolutely frightening to everyone.