Anonymous
01/30/2025 22:24
Subject: God and the Crash at National
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you for this post, OP. Those are my thoughts exactly. If there were an omnipotent God, then he/she should have prevented the crash.
Most of us non-religious folk agree with this, but this is not something to question when people are hurting and seeking comfort in familiar rituals. We all know the most common reason people stop believing in God is because they are aware of so much unjust suffering around the world and cannot square this with a supposedly benevolent deity. Unless you believe in vengeful and murderous gods, of course, like many ancient civilizations did: that solved that problem!
But religious phrases, gestures, hope of a peaceful afterlife with loved ones, have profound and emotional meanings for a lot of people with even tenuous connections to their faith. It's not cool to choose a moment of vulnerability to start pissing all over their support systems.
This whole discussion isn't really about religion. It's about etiquette and common decency. What not to do when people are scared and lost.
It's not like OP said anything negative directly to religious people, or implied that they would. So it seems strange that some other non-religious people are reacting so vehemently
Anonymous
01/30/2025 22:20
Subject: God and the Crash at National
Anonymous wrote:Thank you for this post, OP. Those are my thoughts exactly. If there were an omnipotent God, then he/she should have prevented the crash.
YOu're welcome. Thanks for expressing your support and that you feel the same.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 22:06
Subject: God and the Crash at National
Anonymous wrote:Thank you for this post, OP. Those are my thoughts exactly. If there were an omnipotent God, then he/she should have prevented the crash.
Most of us non-religious folk agree with this, but this is not something to question when people are hurting and seeking comfort in familiar rituals. We all know the most common reason people stop believing in God is because they are aware of so much unjust suffering around the world and cannot square this with a supposedly benevolent deity. Unless you believe in vengeful and murderous gods, of course, like many ancient civilizations did: that solved that problem!
But religious phrases, gestures, hope of a peaceful afterlife with loved ones, have profound and emotional meanings for a lot of people with even tenuous connections to their faith. It's not cool to choose a moment of vulnerability to start pissing all over their support systems.
This whole discussion isn't really about religion. It's about etiquette and common decency. What not to do when people are scared and lost.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 21:55
Subject: God and the Crash at National
Agree. It’s the hypocrisy that gets me. If they are thanking God for saving them, they are implicitly thanking God for not saving the others.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 21:48
Subject: God and the Crash at National
Thank you for this post, OP. Those are my thoughts exactly. If there were an omnipotent God, then he/she should have prevented the crash.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 21:39
Subject: God and the Crash at National
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.
It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.
It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.
I am not religious but the fact that it makes you “sick” suggests you should spend an extended period of time in self reflection examining why you are such a horrible person.
In your opinion. Seems like you could be called a horrible person for calling OP a horrible person.
No, I agree with the other PP. OP is being quite hateful and is lashing out at religious people. It's not right. I'm not religious, and even I can see that!
OP here and needless to say, I disagree and am so sorry that I'm perceived that way by supposed non-believers. I certainly don't deny people the desire to come together in a tragic moment, but really wish that more people, including the 2 pp's, could do it without the intervention of an invisible supernatural being.
I am surrounded by people who don't believe any more or never believed. None of them would act like you, OP. There is a time and a place. You are cruelly lacking in basic empathy. Even my staunchly atheist husband on the autism spectrum knows to shut his mouth in such circumstances!
Anonymous
01/30/2025 21:35
Subject: God and the Crash at National
OP, stop being a ghoul.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 21:27
Subject: God and the Crash at National
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.
It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.
It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.
I am not religious but the fact that it makes you “sick” suggests you should spend an extended period of time in self reflection examining why you are such a horrible person.
In your opinion. Seems like you could be called a horrible person for calling OP a horrible person.
No, I agree with the other PP. OP is being quite hateful and is lashing out at religious people. It's not right. I'm not religious, and even I can see that!
OP here and needless to say, I disagree and am so sorry that I'm perceived that way by supposed non-believers. I certainly don't deny people the desire to come together in a tragic moment, but really wish that more people, including the 2 pp's, could do it without the intervention of an invisible supernatural being.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 20:09
Subject: God and the Crash at National
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.
It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.
It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.
I am not religious but the fact that it makes you “sick” suggests you should spend an extended period of time in self reflection examining why you are such a horrible person.
In your opinion. Seems like you could be called a horrible person for calling OP a horrible person.
No, I agree with the other PP. OP is being quite hateful and is lashing out at religious people. It's not right. I'm not religious, and even I can see that!
Anonymous
01/30/2025 20:06
Subject: Re:God and the Crash at National
So convene a group to process it that won't invoke God. Are there atheist or humanist meetup groups that you can reach out to? Maybe they are doing something.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 19:10
Subject: God and the Crash at National
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.
It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.
It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.
I am not religious but the fact that it makes you “sick” suggests you should spend an extended period of time in self reflection examining why you are such a horrible person.
In your opinion. Seems like you could be called a horrible person for calling OP a horrible person.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 19:04
Subject: God and the Crash at National
Anonymous wrote:People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.
It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.
It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.
I am not religious but the fact that it makes you “sick” suggests you should spend an extended period of time in self reflection examining why you are such a horrible person.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 19:01
Subject: God and the Crash at National
Anonymous wrote:People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.
It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.
It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.
Sigh. FFS.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 18:58
Subject: God and the Crash at National
People are brainwashed to invoke God for consolation after disasters. I am not a practicing religious person, but I do it too. It's like some sort of atavism.
It's not courteous to nitpick one's attempts at finding peace, when people are in shock and the deceased haven't even all been recovered. Bide your time and try not to be offensive.
It's not courteous to nitpick one's attempts at finding peace, when people are in shock and the deceased haven't even all been recovered. Bide your time and try not to be offensive.
Anonymous
01/30/2025 18:50
Subject: God and the Crash at National
People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.
It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.
It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.
It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.
It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.