Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 09:16     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
No one I've talked to at work is taking the "buyout". It's not a buyout, it's a delayed resignation and the whole "maybe we'll put you an admin" is a joke.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 09:15     Subject: Re:What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:What happens if you don't take the buyout to look for a new job and then a large percentage of government workers get the axe in September, for the new fiscal year?


If they thought they had the ability to do that they would have just done that instead of making this offer.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 09:12     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
FFS, 50% of the fed gov workers will not take the buyout. I'm a DOJ alum and DH is still there and we don't know of anyone (well yet anyway) taking it.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 09:11     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
This ain’t Twitter Elon! Try again M-fer!
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 08:46     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a buyout. I hope that most feds will be smart enough to realize this and not take it.


This. It's "we will continue to allow you to work from home until September, at which time you will 'resign.' We may place you on leave during that time, but no guarantees."

The only people this is good for are those who were planning on quitting/retiring before September anyway, or those who truly can't do a commute for logistical reasons, and will use the 8 months to find a new job (while still working).


Yep, the only people I know who are entertaining it have one foot out the door already.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 08:41     Subject: Re:What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
If more than 5% take this deal, I'd be surprised.

-A fed.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 08:40     Subject: Re:What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
What happens if you don't take the buyout to look for a new job and then a large percentage of government workers get the axe in September, for the new fiscal year?
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 08:39     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:What happens if there is a large percentage (50% or more) who take the federal buy out? All of those jobs just cease to exist? No work gets done at the federal level? Or is everything just optics and the work gets moved to federal contractor companies? That way Trump can say he reduced the federal workforce by 50% and his base is too stupid to realize all the work actually went to federal contractors.


1. Few will take it, for a number of reasons.
2. Contractors can't do the work. In my experience only 25 percent of contractors do quality work, and the price for contractors is anywhere from 150 percent to 400 percent more than doing the work in-house.
3. Contractor work isn't free from federal employees. A contract needs project managers and other feds monitoring the work.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 08:37     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a buyout. I hope that most feds will be smart enough to realize this and not take it.


This. It's "we will continue to allow you to work from home until September, at which time you will 'resign.' We may place you on leave during that time, but no guarantees."

The only people this is good for are those who were planning on quitting/retiring before September anyway, or those who truly can't do a commute for logistical reasons, and will use the 8 months to find a new job (while still working).


Exactly this.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 08:37     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a buyout. I hope that most feds will be smart enough to realize this and not take it.

Yes and no. It looks like they are saying people that accept the offer will be placed on administrative leave until September, but they don't have the authority to grant that much leave. Like everything else they are doing it is either poorly thought through or some sick game. I agree with you that nobody should accept this offer.
The NY Times is reporting:

"Employees who accept the offer will “promptly have their duties reassigned or eliminated,” according to a guidance memo published by the O.P.M. on Tuesday. Workers will then be placed on paid administrative leave until the end of September, or an earlier resignation date of their choosing.

Employees who resign will not be expected to work, except in rare cases determined by agencies, according to a question-and-answer page on O.P.M.’s website. Agency heads can require some employees to continue working for some time before they are placed on leave.

It is unclear what authority the Trump administration has to offer paid administrative leave to effectively the entire federal civilian work force. Under the law, no employee can be on administrative leave for more than 10 days in a year — let alone more than seven months.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 08:35     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a buyout. I hope that most feds will be smart enough to realize this and not take it.


This. It's "we will continue to allow you to work from home until September, at which time you will 'resign.' We may place you on leave during that time, but no guarantees."

The only people this is good for are those who were planning on quitting/retiring before September anyway, or those who truly can't do a commute for logistical reasons, and will use the 8 months to find a new job (while still working).
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 08:31     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
No one is taking the buyout.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 08:30     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
Anonymous wrote:What happens if there is a large percentage (50% or more) who take the federal buy out? All of those jobs just cease to exist? No work gets done at the federal level? Or is everything just optics and the work gets moved to federal contractor companies? That way Trump can say he reduced the federal workforce by 50% and his base is too stupid to realize all the work actually went to federal contractors.


I think it depends, some agencies they won’t contract out, think DOE.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 08:23     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
It’s not a buyout. I hope that most feds will be smart enough to realize this and not take it.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2025 08:21     Subject: What happens if large percentage take the buy out?
What happens if there is a large percentage (50% or more) who take the federal buy out? All of those jobs just cease to exist? No work gets done at the federal level? Or is everything just optics and the work gets moved to federal contractor companies? That way Trump can say he reduced the federal workforce by 50% and his base is too stupid to realize all the work actually went to federal contractors.