Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 10:16     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a judge at the PTAB. Like other parts of the PTO, we have people all over the country, including many in locations very far away from other PTO facilities (eg in FLA and NY). If they try to force everyone back, there will be lots of resignations/retirements. People like me, who live inn the DMV, May be willing to go back to Alexandria, but no one will be happy about it. And unless they raise our production requirements, productivity isn’t going up


I'd imagine the companies that want these patents will raise holy hell if PTO starts losing large numbers of examiners and cannot approve patents in a timely manner. From what I understand, it already takes a couple years to get a patent issued.


Since 97, I've applied for several patents and am shocked that takes this office 6 months - 2 years to review and approve the paperwork. Had no idea the dept was this large. I assumed 100 people worked in this office...lol
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 09:59     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is willing to make the business case for keeping remote work. But it’s not up to her, it’s up to Commerce. Out of any federal agency, you guys probably have the best chance though.


The business case is that PTO employees are on production and are laid off for not meeting production. Isn't that the accountability they want?

Also, this system has existed for a long time, well before COVID. Does anyone recall when it was adopted?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 09:56     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:She is willing to make the business case for keeping remote work. But it’s not up to her, it’s up to Commerce. Out of any federal agency, you guys probably have the best chance though.


The business case is that PTO employees are on production and are laid off for not meeting production. Isn't that the accountability they want?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 09:53     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:I’m a judge at the PTAB. Like other parts of the PTO, we have people all over the country, including many in locations very far away from other PTO facilities (eg in FLA and NY). If they try to force everyone back, there will be lots of resignations/retirements. People like me, who live inn the DMV, May be willing to go back to Alexandria, but no one will be happy about it. And unless they raise our production requirements, productivity isn’t going up


I'd imagine the companies that want these patents will raise holy hell if PTO starts losing large numbers of examiners and cannot approve patents in a timely manner. From what I understand, it already takes a couple years to get a patent issued.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 09:51     Subject: Re:Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Okay, but why are there 13k people working for the Patent Office? Literally what are all those people doing? We have computers, the Internet and AI now.

Patent applicants pay fees to have their applications examined. Those fees covers the cost. There's no reason for anyone to focus on the PTO as a way to increase overall govt efficiency.

There are things the PTO can do to improve, but leave those up to patent geeks who are familiar with the system. Don't lump the PTO in with other agencies.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 08:47     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
I’m a judge at the PTAB. Like other parts of the PTO, we have people all over the country, including many in locations very far away from other PTO facilities (eg in FLA and NY). If they try to force everyone back, there will be lots of resignations/retirements. People like me, who live inn the DMV, May be willing to go back to Alexandria, but no one will be happy about it. And unless they raise our production requirements, productivity isn’t going up
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 08:05     Subject: Re:Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Okay, but why are there 13k people working for the Patent Office? Literally what are all those people doing? We have computers, the Internet and AI now.


Please explain your credentials so that we can know whether to take your comment seriously.

Most of USPTO employees are patent examiners. It is an important job, and the patent applicants pay fees to have this service performed.

Some would say that it's a good thing that there are a lot of patent examiners, so that applicants can get a timely review.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 00:18     Subject: Re:Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Okay, but why are there 13k people working for the Patent Office? Literally what are all those people doing? We have computers, the Internet and AI now.


Yes, Senator, and the Internet is a bunch of tubes.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 00:06     Subject: Re:Patent Office RTO Predictions
Okay, but why are there 13k people working for the Patent Office? Literally what are all those people doing? We have computers, the Internet and AI now.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 23:42     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
To what non-existent office space shall they all return, I wonder.

More MAGA stupidity. Can’t think their way out of a paper bag.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 23:37     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
Anonymous wrote:I worked at the PTO in the 2000s and practically everyone telecommuted nearly full time after a year or two. You just had to come in one day per pay period. And there was NO reason to make anyone come in. You literally just say alone at your computer reviewing applications all day. If you were interacting with another human, you were not doing your job, you were not earning points towards your quota etc.


This pretty much sums us up in 2025. They figured out long ago that we patent nerds work much better sealed up alone in our studio apartments. It’s all about meeting our quotas. I bet they’ll order supervisors into the office though.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 22:49     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
They have nowhere to put people
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 22:49     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
I worked at the PTO in the 2000s and practically everyone telecommuted nearly full time after a year or two. You just had to come in one day per pay period. And there was NO reason to make anyone come in. You literally just say alone at your computer reviewing applications all day. If you were interacting with another human, you were not doing your job, you were not earning points towards your quota etc.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 22:48     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
She is willing to make the business case for keeping remote work. But it’s not up to her, it’s up to Commerce. Out of any federal agency, you guys probably have the best chance though.
Anonymous
Post 01/23/2025 22:13     Subject: Patent Office RTO Predictions
So will Coke Stewart order all 13,000 PTO teleworkers/remote workers to return to the office, or will she have the balls to seek an exemption as an Acting Director? Predictions and insider info welcome here.