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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is AP Computer S principles a pre req for AP Java? If your kid already took AP Comp Sci Principles, they fulfilled the tech credit.

It's not a pre-req. My kid came from the TPMS magnet so went straight to AP Java. His counsellor said it doesn't count but other sources said it does. Confused.

It's like that other post about another course, forgot if it was math or something else. When a parent asked counselor, counselor says they can take the AP class. When parent and student asked that course's Lead Teacher, they were told to take the Honors first then the AP.

Our counselor is pretty responsive and has been fairly proactive about reaching out with opportunities for various things (also Churchill). They've been able to give informative advice and are willing to work with our kid to get what he needs/wants. We'll see about the tech credit, but I wouldn't be terribly concerned if he has to take another tech class; knowing my kid, if he was forced to take a non AP or HON tech class he'd do it over the summer. Though it would be better to have it waived or subbed. He can ask.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is AP Computer S principles a pre req for AP Java? If your kid already took AP Comp Sci Principles, they fulfilled the tech credit.

It's not a pre-req. My kid came from the TPMS magnet so went straight to AP Java. His counsellor said it doesn't count but other sources said it does. Confused.

It's like that other post about another course, forgot if it was math or something else. When a parent asked counselor, counselor says they can take the AP class. When parent and student asked that course's Lead Teacher, they were told to take the Honors first then the AP.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is AP Computer S principles a pre req for AP Java? If your kid already took AP Comp Sci Principles, they fulfilled the tech credit.

It's not a pre-req. My kid came from the TPMS magnet so went straight to AP Java. His counsellor said it doesn't count but other sources said it does. Confused.

Don't bother asking here either. Counselors? Who are those?

Anonymous wrote:Is AP Computer S principles a pre req for AP Java? If your kid already took AP Comp Sci Principles, they fulfilled the tech credit.

It's not a pre-req. My kid came from the TPMS magnet so went straight to AP Java. His counsellor said it doesn't count but other sources said it does. Confused.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t. Very limited pathway to get that tech credit. Many more advanced tech classes do not count.

+1. The Churchill document is incorrect.

The Churchill document is that way so that families can claim it, under appeal if necessary, without having to have their DC take the more foundational course -- freeing up an additional slot for AP to support highly competitive applications.

Not that some students shouldn't be going straight to the higher level course.

MSDE & MCPS set their policies and parent groups with influence sidestep them...

Why? Why waste so much of everyone's time? Appeal? GF no

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is AP Computer S principles a pre req for AP Java? If your kid already took AP Comp Sci Principles, they fulfilled the tech credit.

He hasn't yet, he's just starting HS next year and took foreign language + band all 3 years of MS. Trying to understand the pathway and requirements here. Like if AP Java counts for tech credit, I wouldn't suggest him taking AP CS Principles next year, but if it doesn't, I would.

Ask if the school will approve taking AP CS A Java without taking AP CS Principles first, and if they require a placement evaluation. Please report what you learn.

Bigger issue here is why isn't it CONSISTENT at ALL MCPS schools? And why isn't it CLEAR in documents, website or stuff coming out of humans' mouth when you ask at school or elsewhere?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t. Very limited pathway to get that tech credit. Many more advanced tech classes do not count.

+1. The Churchill document is incorrect.

The Churchill document is that way so that families can claim it, under appeal if necessary, without having to have their DC take the more foundational course -- freeing up an additional slot for AP to support highly competitive applications.

Not that some students shouldn't be going straight to the higher level course.

MSDE & MCPS set their policies and parent groups with influence sidestep them...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is AP Computer S principles a pre req for AP Java? If your kid already took AP Comp Sci Principles, they fulfilled the tech credit.

He hasn't yet, he's just starting HS next year and took foreign language + band all 3 years of MS. Trying to understand the pathway and requirements here. Like if AP Java counts for tech credit, I wouldn't suggest him taking AP CS Principles next year, but if it doesn't, I would.

Ask if the school will approve taking AP CS A Java without taking AP CS Principles first, and if they require a placement evaluation. Please report what you learn.

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t. Very limited pathway to get that tech credit. Many more advanced tech classes do not count.

+1. The Churchill document is incorrect.

Reach out to Churchill and ask them to verify with admin or update their documentation.

All past information points to the Churchill document being wrong.

It doesn’t. Very limited pathway to get that tech credit. Many more advanced tech classes do not count.

Anonymous wrote:Is AP Computer S principles a pre req for AP Java? If your kid already took AP Comp Sci Principles, they fulfilled the tech credit.

He hasn't yet, he's just starting HS next year and took foreign language + band all 3 years of MS. Trying to understand the pathway and requirements here. Like if AP Java counts for tech credit, I wouldn't suggest him taking AP CS Principles next year, but if it doesn't, I would.

Is AP Computer S principles a pre req for AP Java? If your kid already took AP Comp Sci Principles, they fulfilled the tech credit.

MCPS = nebulous. You will spend SO much time asking people within your school and answers will vary or be vague.

It does according to this, on the Churchill site https://sites.google.com/mcpsmd.net/winstonchurchillhscourse/home-25-26/course-offerings/career-technology-education?authuser=0

But not according to the county site https://coursebulletin.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/publications/HSCourseBulletin2025.pdf (page 19)