Anonymous wrote:Everyone is in "advanced" English in my daughter's 6th grade middle school. It's ridiculous.

Yes, its insane.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone is in "advanced" English in my daughter's 6th grade middle school. It's ridiculous.

Just think of it as the on-level class.

MCPS is like Lake Wobegon, “where all the children are above average.”

In wealthy schools, this is probably mostly true.

MCPS benchmark for Ker at the end of year is level 4 reading. At our mostly UMC ES, benchmark was an unstated level 6.

Unfortunately, yes, in MS, the "advanced" level is a joke. My kids who were always advanced readers were completely bored in MS. In HS, unless you are in RMIB where you start taking RMS English 9, which is a magnet level English class, the "honors" English class is also a joke. At least in 11th grade you can start taking AP English classes.

I've had two kids, one went through RMIB and another a non magnet, "honors" English. What a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone is in "advanced" English in my daughter's 6th grade middle school. It's ridiculous.

Just think of it as the on-level class.

MCPS is like Lake Wobegon, “where all the children are above average.”

MCPS has only been using a phonics based curriculum to teach reading for a few years. Before that, many parents taught their kids to learn to read at home or provided tutoring to compensate for the deficiencies in the MCPS curriculum. If the kids you know had parents who were likely to supplement to make sure their kids mastered reading, they may indeed be advanced over those who were dependent on a curriculum that taught kids to look at the pictures and guess at unknown words.

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Anonymous wrote:All kids in MS are in “advanced” English and in 9th/10th “honors” English. But in upper ES reading groups should be by ability level. In lower ES it is mostly whole-group instruction in ELA with differentiation in WIN.

Yes but some kids are also in remedial reading in MS which is most certainly not advanced.

OP’s question is one of the dumbest I’ve seen.

Nope, not a dumb question -- I have students in remedial reading who are also co-enrolled in Advanced English 6. No, they can't do the literal reading required for class. About half can do the analysis and engagement if they listen to the audiobooks/use voice to text for writing. The other half really need a different learning environment than my class to access the material, let alone engage with the content.

Do MS English teachers want a single class for English? Parents have been pushing for two levels -- on level and a true advanced class -- but have been told (by central office) that is a no-go. Same with HS "honors" English classes.

Anonymous wrote:Everyone is in "advanced" English in my daughter's 6th grade middle school. It's ridiculous.

Just think of it as the on-level class.

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Anonymous wrote:All kids in MS are in “advanced” English and in 9th/10th “honors” English. But in upper ES reading groups should be by ability level. In lower ES it is mostly whole-group instruction in ELA with differentiation in WIN.

Yes but some kids are also in remedial reading in MS which is most certainly not advanced.

OP’s question is one of the dumbest I’ve seen.

Nope, not a dumb question -- I have students in remedial reading who are also co-enrolled in Advanced English 6. No, they can't do the literal reading required for class. About half can do the analysis and engagement if they listen to the audiobooks/use voice to text for writing. The other half really need a different learning environment than my class to access the material, let alone engage with the content.

10:57 again. Have you looked at the statistical norms? Nationwide. You do realize there is a great percentage of people without a college degree? You look around where you are and wonder how everyone is above average, really? - it's you who do not a have reasonable understanding of where people, in your immediate vicinity, fall statistically.

Are they from a well educated family and not special needs? Then yes.

Anonymous wrote:All kids in MS are in “advanced” English and in 9th/10th “honors” English. But in upper ES reading groups should be by ability level. In lower ES it is mostly whole-group instruction in ELA with differentiation in WIN.

Yes but some kids are also in remedial reading in MS which is most certainly not advanced.

OP’s question is one of the dumbest I’ve seen.

Everyone is in "advanced" English in my daughter's 6th grade middle school. It's ridiculous.

This was a few years ago, but in my ES in Bethesda the on-level kids got extra pull outs and support

All kids in MS are in “advanced” English and in 9th/10th “honors” English. But in upper ES reading groups should be by ability level. In lower ES it is mostly whole-group instruction in ELA with differentiation in WIN.

Definitely NO.

It seems like every kid I know is "advanced"