Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Due dates and deadlines are supposed to be different, per the policy: https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/ika-ra%20master.pdf

I wonder if I can convince my boss that due dates and deadlines are different. Where u work, they are one in the same.

Due dates and deadlines can be different in the work place also. For instance there may be a due date for delivery internally and a deadline when it has to be submitted for regulatory purposes. Or a date when you must submit something to your boss for review and feedback vs when it must be finalized in its entirety.

Not in my workplace!

Anonymous wrote:In addition to due date and deadline, there are now cut-offs.
Cut-off #1 is interims. Cut-off #2 is the end of the quarter.
Work with deadlines prior to interims follow the first cut-off, work with deadlines after interims use the second.

Work turned in after the due date but by the deadline may be deducted 10%

Work turned in past deadline but by the cut-off must be accepted, but only earns 50%.

Work not turned in by the cut-off earns 0.

Thank you for this clarification. Is this just for all tasks or also for practice prep (can you get 50% for PP if you turn it in after deadline but before cut off?)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Due dates and deadlines are supposed to be different, per the policy: https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/ika-ra%20master.pdf

I wonder if I can convince my boss that due dates and deadlines are different. Where u work, they are one in the same.

Due dates and deadlines can be different in the work place also. For instance there may be a due date for delivery internally and a deadline when it has to be submitted for regulatory purposes. Or a date when you must submit something to your boss for review and feedback vs when it must be finalized in its entirety.

You need to be clearer on the situation to get better advice. A zero is probably warranted if the assignment just fell through the cracks. If your child was sick on the due date and forgot to turn it in upon returning, I might speak to the teacher.

So what happened? Also, this might be a time to email the teacher for clarification- because it might not be exactly as your child has told you.

Very inconsistent

Anonymous wrote:In addition to due date and deadline, there are now cut-offs.
Cut-off #1 is interims. Cut-off #2 is the end of the quarter.
Work with deadlines prior to interims follow the first cut-off, work with deadlines after interims use the second.

Work turned in after the due date but by the deadline may be deducted 10%

Work turned in past deadline but by the cut-off must be accepted, but only earns 50%.

Work not turned in by the cut-off earns 0.

We have teachers grading zero for work turned in after deadline. My kid’s teachers are very inconsistent. We also learned after the quarter ended that kids on a 504 or IEP that allows for extra time should be given more time between due date and deadline. It’s not clear whether teachers are doing this. Last quarter was a mess for my kid and likely overall GPA. I’m glad MCPS is going for accountability but all teachers should be grading in the same way.

In addition to due date and deadline, there are now cut-offs.
Cut-off #1 is interims. Cut-off #2 is the end of the quarter.
Work with deadlines prior to interims follow the first cut-off, work with deadlines after interims use the second.

Work turned in after the due date but by the deadline may be deducted 10%

Work turned in past deadline but by the cut-off must be accepted, but only earns 50%.

Work not turned in by the cut-off earns 0.

Anonymous wrote:Due dates and deadlines are supposed to be different, per the policy: https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/ika-ra%20master.pdf

I wonder if I can convince my boss that due dates and deadlines are different. Where u work, they are one in the same.

Agree with earlier posters that kids no longer have unlimited time to turn things in (though I'm guessing implementation varies across schools).

But these two ( "either forgets to turn it in or is out sick or whatever and it just falls through the cracks") seem like very different things.

If they were sick on the day it was assigned and it was never listed anywhere in studentvue or elsewhere, I could imagine having the kid asking the teacher for an exception on the grounds that they didn't know about the assignment since it wasn't listed anywhere (at our school, even assignments submitted on paper are supposed to also be in Canvas/studentvue for tracking). If the kid was in a position to be aware of the assignment (e.g., they were in class when it was assigned or clearly told about it after they returned) then I think it goes in a zero if not submitted.

Every teacher has a different policy. There is no consistency.

Due dates and deadlines are supposed to be different, per the policy: https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/policy/pdf/ika-ra%20master.pdf

My objection is mainly that there is/was no way for the student to know that the teacher didn't get it.

If your kid didn’t turn it in why would you kid think the teacher got it? And, Even if the teacher posted grades the day after the deadline, your kid would be in the same position as if the teacher posted the grade three months after the deadline because once the deadline passes the consequence attaches. Your real objection is lack of third chances.

If this is a problem for your kid, you need to work with them to find strategies to ensure that everything gets turned in.

Was the child sick on the day or was assigned or due? If it was when it was due then unfortunately they have to deal with the consequences of a missing assignment. If it was when assigned you could possibly make the argument that your child never knew about the assignment and that’s why they missed it- but then they should have still figured it out when everyone else turned it in.

To be honest, sounds like your child messed up and is going to have to deal with the consequence.

No, deadlines are back. So are zeros.

However, the due date and deadline are supposed to be a different day. The deadline can be the next day, however.

It is the student’s responsibility to request work if they are absent.

Can someone explain to me what the current rules are with respect to the following scenario:

All Task assignment due on a particular date. Due date and deadline are essentially the same day, or one day apart.
Kid does not turn it in -- either forgets to turn it in or is out sick or whatever and it just falls through the cracks.
Assignment is not posted on Studentvue until weeks later, when it shows up as a zero and student realizes it is missing and tries to turn it in.
Teacher either refuses to take it and gives a zero, or takes it only at 50%.

Is this the policy now? I thought if student got it in before interim or end of quarter, teacher was supposed to take it now. But I admit I am totally confused about what the policy is now. My objection is mainly that there is/was no way for the student to know that the teacher didn't get it. In some classes, it shows up immediately as a "missing" assignment on studentvue, but in other classes, it doesn't show up for weeks.