Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:27     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

Anonymous wrote:Behind the paywall, what does the article say exactly? Simply demonstrating the admission rate difference among income tiers isn't a good enough argument without controlling for merit factors.


They're in discovery now:

"At M.I.T., two children recommended by a wealthy banker with ties to a university board member got special treatment, according to the documents. In a deposition, the school’s director of admissions said the two children, who appeared on a “cases of interest” list, were among those who “we would really have not otherwise admitted.”
...
"Penn’s former associate dean of admissions, Sara Harberson, testified last year in a deposition in the case that a B.S.I. tag meant the student’s family was a big donor or had connections to the board. Those students “were untouchable,” Ms. Harberson said, and “would get in almost 100 percent of the time.”

Ms. Harberson said the admissions office was powerless to deny the student “even if the student was incredibly weak, even if the student had a major issue in the application.”"

Seems like they have more than different rates of admission
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:23     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

Behind the paywall, what does the article say exactly? Simply demonstrating the admission rate difference among income tiers isn't a good enough argument without controlling for merit factors.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:17     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

Anonymous wrote:So much for MIT being the only school that admits solely on merit

They never were nor claimed this. It’s a common lie by stem bros that don’t understand what meritocracy even means.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:15     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth


Maybe now Georgetown and MIT can get off their "moral high ground" they've always claimed. Merit indeed.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:13     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand what the cause of action is. Is it illegal to preference wealthy people? Poor people are not a protected class.


Antitrust. They schools openly colluded on financial aid, because there was an antitrust exemption for fully need blind admissions. The plaintiffs are arguing that the development admits mean the exemption doesn't apply
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:10     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

I don't understand what the cause of action is. Is it illegal to preference wealthy people? Poor people are not a protected class.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:09     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

What a surprise. It is always all about the Benjamins.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:07     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

My guess is that every student you've ever known who has gotten off a T20 waitlist has been full pay. Money matters. Not surprised

Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 13:52     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked. Shocked!


Shocking part is that people still believe that kids get in based on merit in these schools. And we keep seeing how that is not true.. again and again.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 13:50     Subject: Re:Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

Not surprising at all - there is a lowered requirement for those kids that does not apply to the rest of the world.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 13:47     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

This is not a surprise or unexpected. People try to buy their way in to these places.. and will keep doing so.. rich and influential people usually get what they want..
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 13:47     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

I'm shocked. Shocked!
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 13:45     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

So much for MIT being the only school that admits solely on merit
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 13:44     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

Duke is also mentioned in another report
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 13:39     Subject: Suit Accuses Georgetown, Penn and M.I.T. of Admissions Based on Wealth

Nothing new here but still worth a read

“ The schools were accused of giving special treatment to wealthy students who might not otherwise have been admitted.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/17/us/lawsuit-georgetown-wealthy-students-admissions.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare