Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:54     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Anonymous wrote:Lamb’s test scores have been dropping for years. Every kid I know is supplementing. Lamb kids do not do well at DCI. I don’t know what happened. As a lamb parent it is shocking to me that the leadership seemingly are unconcerned as far as I can tell. Although, to be honest, I don’t really have time to read every parentsquare post because I’m driving my kids to Mathnasium after school like everyone else.


I'm curious if this is based on data or simply anecdotal. The kids I know from LAMB at DCI are doing well but that's also not based on data. Can you share any data you have seen regarding LAMB student performance at DCI?
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:35     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sigh, Marie Reed, Bruce Monroe, and Powell really are great schools with great teachers, but will never escape the high SES flight (white and otherwise) because of the feeder pattern.

- Former family who loved their school but fled because of the feeder pattern.
Considering Chisholm and Houston don’t have a proper immersion feeder, and some charters don’t have DCI preference, it’s a shame DCPS doesn’t have a city-wide Spanish immersion 6-12 education campus.


Don't all dcps immersion programs except maybe oyster have a programmatic feeder right to MacFarland?
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:33     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Anonymous wrote:Sigh, Marie Reed, Bruce Monroe, and Powell really are great schools with great teachers, but will never escape the high SES flight (white and otherwise) because of the feeder pattern.

- Former family who loved their school but fled because of the feeder pattern.


If dcps had the guts to say that getting into a school for elementary oob didn't qualify you for the middle and high school patterns, more people would stay at their elementary schools through 5th grade.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 14:16     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Anonymous wrote:A few things…

Marie Reed: M 90 / E 76
Bruce Monroe: M 86/ E 79
Powell: M 86/ E missing data
MV Cook M 80/ E 66
Bancroft: M 77/ E 80
DC Bilingual M 75/ E 82
Oyster: M 75/ E 80
Chisholm M 68/ E 77
Stokes Brookland M 64/ E 71
LAMB M 56/ E 53
MV Calle Ocho M 54/ E 48



Some of these schools have *significant* equity issues. The order of this list looks very different if you aren't focused solely on white kids. For example, for Black kids:

DC Bilingual M 45/ E 37
LAMB M 45/ E 25
Bruce Monroe: M 37/ E 24
Marie Reed: M 29 / E 27
Stokes Brookland M 24/ E 49
Oyster: M 23/ E 54
Chisholm: M 18/ E 32
MV Cook: M 17/ E 26
MV Calle Ocho M 16/ E 28
Powell: M 12/ E 31
Bancroft: M <10/ E 18









Anonymous
Post 12/18/2024 09:20     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Anonymous wrote:Sigh, Marie Reed, Bruce Monroe, and Powell really are great schools with great teachers, but will never escape the high SES flight (white and otherwise) because of the feeder pattern.

- Former family who loved their school but fled because of the feeder pattern.
Considering Chisholm and Houston don’t have a proper immersion feeder, and some charters don’t have DCI preference, it’s a shame DCPS doesn’t have a city-wide Spanish immersion 6-12 education campus.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2024 22:11     Subject: Re:CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

I have experience with a couple of these DCPS school and the amount of test prep they do varies quite a bit - from weeks of focus on test prep to basically no prep. I wouldn’t read too much into the scores for that reason.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2024 21:29     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Anonymous wrote:Lamb’s test scores have been dropping for years. Every kid I know is supplementing. Lamb kids do not do well at DCI. I don’t know what happened. As a lamb parent it is shocking to me that the leadership seemingly are unconcerned as far as I can tell. Although, to be honest, I don’t really have time to read every parentsquare post because I’m driving my kids to Mathnasium after school like everyone else.


I've heard Montessori schools generally don't test well (and I imagine the model is very anti- teaching to the test) regardless of school quality, but I worry the model doesn't support students who have more focused interests/don't push themselves on their weaknesses.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2024 20:54     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Lamb’s test scores have been dropping for years. Every kid I know is supplementing. Lamb kids do not do well at DCI. I don’t know what happened. As a lamb parent it is shocking to me that the leadership seemingly are unconcerned as far as I can tell. Although, to be honest, I don’t really have time to read every parentsquare post because I’m driving my kids to Mathnasium after school like everyone else.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2024 20:48     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

My white and Hispanic kids went to MacFarland so shrug
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2024 20:45     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow lamb’s test scores have plummeted.


Yeah wow.

But this data is hard. A person can be Hispanic and white at the same time, and the more than one race category is huge and hard to interpret.
Good point. Since they had a Hispanic category, I assumed it was Caucasian non- Hispanic, but I couldn't find how they defined it. I also don't know the percentage of at-risk for Caucasians, or the sample size.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2024 20:36     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow lamb’s test scores have plummeted.


Yeah wow.

But this data is hard. A person can be Hispanic and white at the same time, and the more than one race category is huge and hard to interpret.


Yeah but as a lamb parent I can tell you this is totally unsurprising to me.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2024 20:11     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Sigh, Marie Reed, Bruce Monroe, and Powell really are great schools with great teachers, but will never escape the high SES flight (white and otherwise) because of the feeder pattern.

- Former family who loved their school but fled because of the feeder pattern.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2024 20:05     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Anonymous wrote:Wow lamb’s test scores have plummeted.


Yeah wow.

But this data is hard. A person can be Hispanic and white at the same time, and the more than one race category is huge and hard to interpret.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2024 19:54     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

Wow lamb’s test scores have plummeted.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2024 10:21     Subject: CAPE Score Comparison for Caucasian students at Schools with Spanish Immersion

A few things…

1. Yes, testing scores are far from everything.

2. I pulled the data for White students instead of the overall scores because that's the demographic my child fits in. Feel free to compare any other group: https://www.empowerk12.org/data-dashboard-source/dc-metrics-dash

3. This looks at Meeting or Exceeding Expectations for both English and Math.

Marie Reed: M 90 / E 76
Bruce Monroe: M 86/ E 79
Powell: M 86/ E missing data
MV Cook M 80/ E 66
Bancroft: M 77/ E 80
DC Bilingual M 75/ E 82
Oyster: M 75/ E 80
Chisholm M 68/ E 77
Stokes Brookland M 64/ E 71
LAMB M 56/ E 53
MV Calle Ocho M 54/ E 48