Anonymous wrote:How does the application of locally-normed scores work when your child attends a different school? For example, if your child is in an immersion ES program that is not your home school, is the determination for the lottery pool based on the school the child attends or the home school?

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Anonymous wrote:It is now a lottery system based on primarily map scores and grades. COGAT testing will not be an indicator for the 25-26 school year.

Did MCPS explain why they won't use it other than it would not result in the desired demographics? Seems like a really critical data point. the CESes are basically the only point at which you can capture highly intelligent kids who may not be challenged and as a result not motivated due to being in the wrong setting. By the time they are in MS and HS it's kind of too late and many of those kids who were unmotivated may have checked out.

It does seem like a flawed system since the kids who need this the most aren't typically selected. I'm not sure gatekeeping with CogAT is the real answer, either. Maybe make these offerings available to all students without dumbing them down. If kids are up for the rigor they do well if not they drop out. Easy....

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Anonymous wrote:It is now a lottery system based on primarily map scores and grades. COGAT testing will not be an indicator for the 25-26 school year.

so what was the point of taking the cogat?

The GT identification process is run by a different office from the one that does CES admissions. CogAT is used only for GT identification, which doesn’t affect whether kids are entered into the CES lottery. This doesn’t make any sense, but that’s MCPS for you.

But my kid was already identified as GT in second grade. Could he be stripped of GT status based on Cogat score?

No, but “GT status” offers bragging rights only. It is the CES/middle school magnet lotteries that you should care about.

I don't know anyone who brags about this, especially given the large proportion of the student population identified. The CES/criteria-based MS programs offer the most enrichment at those levels, so the criteria for lottery inclusion would be of interest while the seating capacities there remain woefully low in comparison to the population which would benefit and while local enrichment options lag. Still, GT identification can be a basis for conversations, whether about an individual or about a cohort, with teachers/administrators to advocate for employment of available enrichment options.

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Anonymous wrote:It is now a lottery system based on primarily map scores and grades. COGAT testing will not be an indicator for the 25-26 school year.

so what was the point of taking the cogat?

The GT identification process is run by a different office from the one that does CES admissions. CogAT is used only for GT identification, which doesn’t affect whether kids are entered into the CES lottery. This doesn’t make any sense, but that’s MCPS for you.

But my kid was already identified as GT in second grade. Could he be stripped of GT status based on Cogat score?

No, but “GT status” offers bragging rights only. It is the CES/middle school magnet lotteries that you should care about.

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Anonymous wrote:It is now a lottery system based on primarily map scores and grades. COGAT testing will not be an indicator for the 25-26 school year.

Did MCPS explain why they won't use it other than it would not result in the desired demographics? Seems like a really critical data point. the CESes are basically the only point at which you can capture highly intelligent kids who may not be challenged and as a result not motivated due to being in the wrong setting. By the time they are in MS and HS it's kind of too late and many of those kids who were unmotivated may have checked out.

Anonymous wrote:It is now a lottery system based on primarily map scores and grades. COGAT testing will not be an indicator for the 25-26 school year.

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Anonymous wrote:It is now a lottery system based on primarily map scores and grades. COGAT testing will not be an indicator for the 25-26 school year.

so what was the point of taking the cogat?

The GT identification process is run by a different office from the one that does CES admissions. CogAT is used only for GT identification, which doesn’t affect whether kids are entered into the CES lottery. This doesn’t make any sense, but that’s MCPS for you.

But my kid was already identified as GT in second grade. Could he be stripped of GT status based on Cogat score?

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Anonymous wrote:It is now a lottery system based on primarily map scores and grades. COGAT testing will not be an indicator for the 25-26 school year.

so what was the point of taking the cogat?

The GT identification process is run by a different office from the one that does CES admissions. CogAT is used only for GT identification, which doesn’t affect whether kids are entered into the CES lottery. This doesn’t make any sense, but that’s MCPS for you.

But my kid was already identified as GT in second grade. Could he be stripped of GT status based on Cogat score?

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Anonymous wrote:It is now a lottery system based on primarily map scores and grades. COGAT testing will not be an indicator for the 25-26 school year.

so what was the point of taking the cogat?

The GT identification process is run by a different office from the one that does CES admissions. CogAT is used only for GT identification, which doesn’t affect whether kids are entered into the CES lottery. This doesn’t make any sense, but that’s MCPS for you.

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Anonymous wrote:It is now a lottery system based on primarily map scores and grades. COGAT testing will not be an indicator for the 25-26 school year.

so what was the point of taking the cogat?

Anonymous wrote:It is now a lottery system based on primarily map scores and grades. COGAT testing will not be an indicator for the 25-26 school year.

Anonymous wrote:It is now a lottery system based on primarily map scores and grades. COGAT testing will not be an indicator for the 25-26 school year.