My wife has made more money than me (by 2-3x) every year that we’ve been together except for one. We’re in the same field (Tech sales). I have a higher level of education and hold a higher position but straight comp plan to comp plan she’s paid about 30% more than me.

Anonymous wrote:Different women define victory differently. Some in money, others in satisfaction and purpose.

Except these aren’t all mutually exclusive.

But nice try.

Ignoring any cultural issues such as sexism within a specific field, why would a woman prefer to become a plumber or a high voltage lineman? Most men avoid these jobs, can’t imagine women naturally gravitating towards these jobs.

Why don’t Hispanic women work on construction in NOVA instead of hotel services?

Anonymous wrote:The narrative until a few years ago was that we have an unfair gender pay gap but it’s since shifted to women being girlbosses who outnumber men in academia and are now finding it difficult to date because of how successful they are and can’t find a man who measures up.

Are women actually earning more than men now or are they simply getting useless lib arts degrees along with a mountain of debt and declaring victory?

As others have said, academic success hasn't translated to pay equity or equal presence in board rooms.

The dating issue is unrelated, IMO; it's more about not needing to marry because you're pregnant or would like a credit card. Those weights were keeping standards artificially low.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on the age group. Younger women are making more money than men. They also have higher matriculation into white collar and corporate jobs than men.

It's interesting we send women to college but encourage men to replace roofs and fix clogged toilets. I think women should be encouraged to be roofers, plumbers, oil workers and the like as well. Women are fully capable of doing these jobs.

They maybe capable but they are not interested. Same with military where despite a generation of legislation and DEI policies women are still the minority because they are less interested than men.

I don’t think we should force anyone to be anything. Let people choose based on their merit and personal preferences.

There is a lot of gender bias and sexual harassment and assault in the military, still. Plenty of women choose not to attend the academies because of sex harassment issues, or they left mid career because military maternity leave was so short (it's longer now), or werent promoted because there's no way to step back for family reasons and then ramp back up later like you can in the civilian world. I agree there probably is less interest to start, but it's in no way a level playing field.

I know a woman plumber and a woman oil worker. The oil worker doesn't have kids, it requires being away from home for long stretches.

If your husband is rich why would you trade your health and time for corporate shekels?

At my country club 90% of the main bread winners are men. Just the truth.

Not even a conservative club.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on the age group. Younger women are making more money than men. They also have higher matriculation into white collar and corporate jobs than men.

It's interesting we send women to college but encourage men to replace roofs and fix clogged toilets. I think women should be encouraged to be roofers, plumbers, oil workers and the like as well. Women are fully capable of doing these jobs.

They maybe capable but they are not interested. Same with military where despite a generation of legislation and DEI policies women are still the minority because they are less interested than men.

I don’t think we should force anyone to be anything. Let people choose based on their merit and personal preferences.

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the age group. Younger women are making more money than men. They also have higher matriculation into white collar and corporate jobs than men.

It's interesting we send women to college but encourage men to replace roofs and fix clogged toilets. I think women should be encouraged to be roofers, plumbers, oil workers and the like as well. Women are fully capable of doing these jobs.

No, women do not earn more than men. Here is the most recent data for 2023: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/earnings/gender-earnings-ratios-wagegap-age

The gap is smallest for 20-24 year olds, but on average, men still earn more than women across all age brackets.

I have seen data that in a handful of metros young women earn more https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/03/28/young-women-are-out-earning-young-men-in-several-u-s-cities/--this chart includes the DC metro as a place where young women earn more. But this is a different source, the American Community Survey whereas as the source I cite above is the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). The BLS was not disaggregated by metropolitan area so perhaps the pattern would be similar for that data if disaggregated that way.

Anonymous wrote:The narrative until a few years ago was that we have an unfair gender pay gap but it’s since shifted to women being girlbosses who outnumber men in academia and are now finding it difficult to date because of how successful they are and can’t find a man who measures up.

Are women actually earning more than men now or are they simply getting useless lib arts degrees along with a mountain of debt and declaring victory?

At the top end, women are not outnumbering men and getting higher pay.

Disproportionate academic success is not (yet) leading to disproportionate career and financial success at the highest level.

Google stats on women as F500 CEOs, women in business management careers, Wall Street, Congress, etc.

It took me decades to see how implicit bias still affects careers. Now I know how it works from direct experience, I believe it's real. At the beginning of my career, I didn't know how small privileges snowball or how people promoting people who are most like them works over long periods of time. I even like and trust the same people who implicitly prefer male employees more. They are not bad people. They just are biased. Actions speak louder than words.

Anonymous wrote:Different women define victory differently. Some in money, others in satisfaction and purpose.

Harrison Butker?

Different women define victory differently. Some in money, others in satisfaction and purpose.

Depends on the age group. Younger women are making more money than men. They also have higher matriculation into white collar and corporate jobs than men.

The narrative until a few years ago was that we have an unfair gender pay gap but it’s since shifted to women being girlbosses who outnumber men in academia and are now finding it difficult to date because of how successful they are and can’t find a man who measures up.

Are women actually earning more than men now or are they simply getting useless lib arts degrees along with a mountain of debt and declaring victory?