Anonymous wrote:In middle school, isn’t AAP just Honors?

At Frost they explained it as honors, but with just a few more extensions (not a faster pace).

Anonymous wrote:In middle school, isn’t AAP just Honors?

Not at Longfellow — AAP and honors are different classes. No idea how other middle schools operate.

In middle school, isn’t AAP just Honors?

LMS does not have regular classes. only AAP and honors. honors are regular classes.

IDK what PP meant about English because nobody said the curriculum was very different. English HN and English AAP are almost exactly the same. A bit more work in AAP. But again - THERE ARE NO GEN ED COURSES because honors is gen ed at LMS. I'm sure it makes life much easier for the staff at LMS so they don't have to field demands from whiny parents. You cannot be asked to be placed in a regular class because they do not exist, at all.

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Anonymous wrote:According to my son, who is now a HS freshman, at Longfellow (AAP Center) there are 2 types of classes, AA and Honors. They are both extremely similar but AA has more work and covers a bit more information. There is no “regular/GenEd” class as the regular class is called honors. For example, there is no English 7, only English 7 HN and English 7 AA, but English 7 HN is equivalent to English 7 at another school. However, the math courses function slightly differently.
Math 7 IS a course and is in fact Math 7.
Math 7 HN covers pre algebra.
Math 7 “AA” would be Algebra 1 HN but it’s not called AA.
I believe students taking Algebra 1 in 7th grade can only take Algebra 1 HN, which is an actual traditional Honors course. For Math 8, Math 8 is pre algebra, and if a student wants to take math past that they have the option of taking Algebra 1 or Algebra 1 HN.

This can't be right about English. I would be shocked if this is correct - I have a 7th grader at Cooper and I don't think the curriculum would be completely different.

For English, history, and science, kids choose between regular, honors, or AAP (you can only do AAP if you have qualified; anyone can choose regular or honors).

For math, the above explanation is correct.

The kids also take PE/health and choose two electives.

I have seen people post about some schools that have Honors and AAP classes only in MS. I suspect that those schools have regular classes but that you have to ask to be placed in the regular classes. I find the idea interesting because there is so much talk about not stressing kids by aiming for all honors in HS it is strange that there are MSs were Honors is all that is offered. If the kids can take all honors in MS, why not HS?

I do think that the all honors MS end up with a class that is doing less then a regular honors class but who knows.

Carson has three levels of class, regular, honors, and AAP. There are some differences between H and AAP but they don’t seem to be major differences.

Anonymous wrote:According to my son, who is now a HS freshman, at Longfellow (AAP Center) there are 2 types of classes, AA and Honors. They are both extremely similar but AA has more work and covers a bit more information. There is no “regular/GenEd” class as the regular class is called honors. For example, there is no English 7, only English 7 HN and English 7 AA, but English 7 HN is equivalent to English 7 at another school. However, the math courses function slightly differently.
Math 7 IS a course and is in fact Math 7.
Math 7 HN covers pre algebra.
Math 7 “AA” would be Algebra 1 HN but it’s not called AA.
I believe students taking Algebra 1 in 7th grade can only take Algebra 1 HN, which is an actual traditional Honors course. For Math 8, Math 8 is pre algebra, and if a student wants to take math past that they have the option of taking Algebra 1 or Algebra 1 HN.

This can't be right about English. I would be shocked if this is correct - I have a 7th grader at Cooper and I don't think the curriculum would be completely different.

For English, history, and science, kids choose between regular, honors, or AAP (you can only do AAP if you have qualified; anyone can choose regular or honors).

For math, the above explanation is correct.

The kids also take PE/health and choose two electives.

According to my son, who is now a HS freshman, at Longfellow (AAP Center) there are 2 types of classes, AA and Honors. They are both extremely similar but AA has more work and covers a bit more information. There is no “regular/GenEd” class as the regular class is called honors. For example, there is no English 7, only English 7 HN and English 7 AA, but English 7 HN is equivalent to English 7 at another school. However, the math courses function slightly differently.
Math 7 IS a course and is in fact Math 7.
Math 7 HN covers pre algebra.
Math 7 “AA” would be Algebra 1 HN but it’s not called AA.
I believe students taking Algebra 1 in 7th grade can only take Algebra 1 HN, which is an actual traditional Honors course. For Math 8, Math 8 is pre algebra, and if a student wants to take math past that they have the option of taking Algebra 1 or Algebra 1 HN.

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Watch out for the advising in the future, picking classes for 9th. An all A student from Honors may get the same encouragement from a counselor to take the same classes as an all A student in AAP. There may still be some prejudice to watch for.

Every school is different. Carson AAP is separated as it’s a Center school. But from what I hear, Franklin (local school) also has honors kids etc mixed in. So find out from the center school you are zoned to.

This was a couple of years ago but when my DS was in middle school, he did have a mix of AAP and Gen Ed kids in his math class, but only his math class. All his other classes were AAP classes. He was in Math 7 Honors then Algebra 1 Honors and there were some Gen Ed kids who tested into the higher math but were in Gen Ed for everything else. Also, in the Algebra 1 Honors class, it was a mix of 7th and 8th graders. How do I know this?
1. He told me.
2. At back to school night during the math class, I knew some of the parents and I knew what grade their kid was in. Larla, was in 7th grade and my DS was in 8th and Larla's parents were sitting next to me in the math section of BtSN.

Anonymous wrote:Im not sure if there is a separate class for AAP ,but AAP kids have the option of choosing between Math7 Honors or Algebra I honors(based on the SOL and IAAT scores ). Can anyone share details of the classroom setup .

There is an AAP core curriculum track with only AAP kids in those classes. There’s also honors and genEd tracks.

There are AAP classes in MS. Students who are committee placed will have the choice of AAP courses or honors/gen ed courses. If you choose AAP all of your core classes are with AAP, except math. So AAP English, AAP Science, and AAP History. Math is determined by the SOL and IAAT scores. Kids will either take Algebra 1 H, with a pass advanced on the SOL and a 91st percentile with the IAAT, or Math 7 H.

Students cannot be Principal placed into the MS AAP classes. At least, that is what we are told and I have not heard of examples of Principal placed students in MS. Students who are committee placed can choose to attend their base MS or a center.

Different people will tell you that Honors classes are the same as AAP classes. Others will tell you that there is a difference. I think it depends on the school. I know that in History this year my son has had geography quizzes in his AAP class and his friends in honors have not. I don’t know if that is an AAP difference or his Teacher doing things a bit differently than another Teacher. I have not heard much from his friend’s parents about the other classes. I only know about the geography difference because his friends Mom commented that she was buying a specific board game which included a map of the US to help teach geography. I was surprised since my son had been learning US geography in History this year.

Im not sure if there is a separate class for AAP ,but AAP kids have the option of choosing between Math7 Honors or Algebra I honors(based on the SOL and IAAT scores ). Can anyone share details of the classroom setup .

Is there a separate AAP in middle school? I.e., are the AAP kids in AAP math 7? If so whose in the honors 7 math?. Just the kids that were part time AAP