Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 16:33     Subject: Re:Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Possibly AP Seminar in 10th grade in lieu of Honors English 10.


Can you do this? Is AP Seminar credited towards English credit?


It's fairly new and may still be in the process of rolling out to all schools, but that is my understanding, yes.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 16:14     Subject: Re:Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

Anonymous wrote:Possibly AP Seminar in 10th grade in lieu of Honors English 10.


Can you do this? Is AP Seminar credited towards English credit?
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 16:09     Subject: Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

Anonymous wrote:It's very easy to read on your own outside of class. It's very hard to teach yourself math outside of class


It's very hard to become a better academic writer without guidance on conducting research and constructing arguments, or a better creative writer without targeted study and feedback.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 16:07     Subject: Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC is a rapid reader with a nearly photographic memory, can write and research appropriately, and is easily bored and under-worked in English courses where lots of other students are just messing around. If math can be accelerated, why can't English? Is the best we can do for DC to take AP Lang as a junior and AP Lit as a senior, or is there something earlier or better that is possible?

What is your end goal here? Take college English classes in HS?


No, just be challenged to learn to read, analyze, conduct research, and write at a truly college level - and start and practice doing that before senior year.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 16:05     Subject: Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's very easy to read on your own outside of class. It's very hard to teach yourself math outside of class


Beg your pardon?

The main reason kids get accelerated math classes is because the students (and parents/tutors) aught them(selves) math outside of class.


It's even easier to read a book
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 16:03     Subject: Re:Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

How old are they?

If they’re in high school, you can see about English electives/clubs like journalism or creative writing.

If they’re in middle school, you might consider applying to the IB program at Richard Montgomery for high school.

If they’re in grade school, you might consider applying to the MS Humanities magnet program. If they’re in a lower grade, you might consider applying to one of the magnet centers for 4th and 5th grade.

She can always write on her own. November may be over, but she doesn’t have to wait for NaNoWriMo to write a story. If she wants to write a short story or poetry, you could have it bound with something like Illustory.

Montgomery County Public Libraries has book clubs and writers groups available for different ages.

Hoagies has links to enrichment web sites for all ages and subjects. Here is their page for writing links:
https://www.hoagiesgifted.org/language.htm#writing

Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 15:48     Subject: Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

Anonymous wrote:DC is a rapid reader with a nearly photographic memory, can write and research appropriately, and is easily bored and under-worked in English courses where lots of other students are just messing around. If math can be accelerated, why can't English? Is the best we can do for DC to take AP Lang as a junior and AP Lit as a senior, or is there something earlier or better that is possible?


So work her harder.

Tell her to write longer, better essays.

Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 15:47     Subject: Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

Anonymous wrote:It's very easy to read on your own outside of class. It's very hard to teach yourself math outside of class


Beg your pardon?

The main reason kids get accelerated math classes is because the students (and parents/tutors) aught them(selves) math outside of class.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 15:46     Subject: Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

MCPS admin here. Point well taken!

We'll see to it that schools stop accelerating math.

Yours in Equity,
MCPS
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 15:43     Subject: Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

It's very easy to read on your own outside of class. It's very hard to teach yourself math outside of class
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 15:42     Subject: Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

You can have your child take supplementary English
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 15:09     Subject: Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

Anonymous wrote:DC is a rapid reader with a nearly photographic memory, can write and research appropriately, and is easily bored and under-worked in English courses where lots of other students are just messing around. If math can be accelerated, why can't English? Is the best we can do for DC to take AP Lang as a junior and AP Lit as a senior, or is there something earlier or better that is possible?

What is your end goal here? Take college English classes in HS?
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 13:48     Subject: Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

Accelerating English isn’t necessary or won’t solve the problem. Teachers could give all students the possibility of enhancing the curriculum — read this book instead of that or these two books instead of that one, read this lit crit essay to supplement etc., and then kids could just write better essays. But the real problem is that the teachers don’t have time to reach real essays or grade them. Moving kids more quickly into the AP program doesn’t solve that problem.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 13:35     Subject: Re:Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

Possibly AP Seminar in 10th grade in lieu of Honors English 10.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2024 13:21     Subject: Why can't we accelerate English the way we (try to) accelerate math?

DC is a rapid reader with a nearly photographic memory, can write and research appropriately, and is easily bored and under-worked in English courses where lots of other students are just messing around. If math can be accelerated, why can't English? Is the best we can do for DC to take AP Lang as a junior and AP Lit as a senior, or is there something earlier or better that is possible?