Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 01:33     Subject: Re:Who should do Compacted Math?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is the one thing I regret. But of my DDs did well up until 9th grade when they were in Honors Algebra 2. It was such a rough start to high school.

Its rough for a lot of kids but parents never think ahead to this. Or having to take Calculus in 11th grade. Most kids should not be on this path. Dumb that MCPS encourages this.


It's not rough for math kids. Mine did Calculus in 10th. It was hard as they jumped to BC and not AB, but we just got a tutor. We thought ahead. Kid wanted it and I wasn't going to say no.


Your kid with a math tutor, is not a "math kid".



Yes, they are. They needed a tutor as there are no textbooks, just assignment handouts and teacher is often out for long periods of time, including 3 weeks and the solution was to teach yourself with videos.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 00:35     Subject: Who should do Compacted Math?

Kids should not working to get into Compacted Math. They should either be math loving kids who are excelling and need the acceleration or kids who for whatever reason are grasping the concepts easily and new enrichment/accleration.

As others mentioned thinking ahead and paying attention to how kids are doing each year is critical. Because what seems easy in 4th grade, starts to really become a lot of necessary concepts to grasp and have solid foundation of each year.

As someone else noted the criteria for entry and staying is becoming stricter, because MCPS wants to see kids doing well all the way through, particularly in Alg1 and Alg2. This means Profecieny or Distinguished on the MCAP.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 23:05     Subject: Re:Who should do Compacted Math?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is the one thing I regret. But of my DDs did well up until 9th grade when they were in Honors Algebra 2. It was such a rough start to high school.

Its rough for a lot of kids but parents never think ahead to this. Or having to take Calculus in 11th grade. Most kids should not be on this path. Dumb that MCPS encourages this.


It's not rough for math kids. Mine did Calculus in 10th. It was hard as they jumped to BC and not AB, but we just got a tutor. We thought ahead. Kid wanted it and I wasn't going to say no.

Its right for some kids.. Putting non math kids on this path is a mistake
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 22:53     Subject: Re:Who should do Compacted Math?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is the one thing I regret. But of my DDs did well up until 9th grade when they were in Honors Algebra 2. It was such a rough start to high school.

Its rough for a lot of kids but parents never think ahead to this. Or having to take Calculus in 11th grade. Most kids should not be on this path. Dumb that MCPS encourages this.


It's not rough for math kids. Mine did Calculus in 10th. It was hard as they jumped to BC and not AB, but we just got a tutor. We thought ahead. Kid wanted it and I wasn't going to say no.


Your kid with a math tutor, is not a "math kid".


Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 22:47     Subject: Re:Who should do Compacted Math?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is the one thing I regret. But of my DDs did well up until 9th grade when they were in Honors Algebra 2. It was such a rough start to high school.

Its rough for a lot of kids but parents never think ahead to this. Or having to take Calculus in 11th grade. Most kids should not be on this path. Dumb that MCPS encourages this.


It's not rough for math kids. Mine did Calculus in 10th. It was hard as they jumped to BC and not AB, but we just got a tutor. We thought ahead. Kid wanted it and I wasn't going to say no.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 22:46     Subject: Who should do Compacted Math?

Supplement. I would fight for it. One lower map score means nothing. They could have had an off day.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 21:00     Subject: Who should do Compacted Math?

Anonymous wrote:When my kids were in ES and then Pyle MS nearly everyone did compacted math. There were something like 3-4 classes for compacted and 1 for "regular".

MCPS push it because parents have pushed it. I don't know if is easing off? But you can basically decide yourself and make it known what you want.

I even tried to get my DS OUT of compacted because I felt it was going to fast and concepts were not sticking but they dissuaded me.


The criteria for compacted math are now stricter than they were even in recent years. More schools have too few kids identified to have even one class, so they have to have kids receive it virtually. This is a good thing--they are trying to identify the kids who will be successful. Previoulsy, too many kids who did compacted were not proficient in algebra when they took it.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 20:32     Subject: Re:Who should do Compacted Math?

Anonymous wrote:It is the one thing I regret. But of my DDs did well up until 9th grade when they were in Honors Algebra 2. It was such a rough start to high school.

Its rough for a lot of kids but parents never think ahead to this. Or having to take Calculus in 11th grade. Most kids should not be on this path. Dumb that MCPS encourages this.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 16:58     Subject: Re:Who should do Compacted Math?

It is the one thing I regret. But of my DDs did well up until 9th grade when they were in Honors Algebra 2. It was such a rough start to high school.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 15:06     Subject: Who should do Compacted Math?

When my kids were in ES and then Pyle MS nearly everyone did compacted math. There were something like 3-4 classes for compacted and 1 for "regular".

MCPS push it because parents have pushed it. I don't know if is easing off? But you can basically decide yourself and make it known what you want.

I even tried to get my DS OUT of compacted because I felt it was going to fast and concepts were not sticking but they dissuaded me.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 14:33     Subject: Who should do Compacted Math?

You absolutely should supplement!
If your child thrives on it, continue. If they struggle, back off. This applies in every subject and EC activity
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 14:31     Subject: Who should do Compacted Math?

You should do compacted math if you are bored in class because it's too easy.
For a large group of kids, it doesn't matter because they can step up or down in 6th grade (or even 5th) if they realize they are in the wrong class in either direction.

Math is extremely repetitive in 4th through 8th (pre algebra), with little new material each yes. Plenty of time to be flexible and adjust course.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 14:26     Subject: Who should do Compacted Math?

Anonymous wrote:What is the criteria for doing compacted math at MCPS? Does it vary school-to-school? My son likes math and has an interest. His Math MAP scores have generally been in the 90-99 range, but recently went down to 80 for his 3rd grade Winter Map Math. He generally also shows little growth in math compared to others. We had not been doing any supplementing, as we didn't want him to be bored in school.

Trying to figure out if I should give him more support and encourage supplementation, so that he has the option for compacted math next year if he wants it, or if I should just let him be, and let him end up where he ends up. I don't want him to miss out on an opportunity to learn though when other families are supplementing, and are more hands-on with their kids' academics.

He is also one of the youngest kids in his grade with an August birthday.



It does seem to vary by school due to space in the classroom. However, it just really depends if your child is willing to do the work. My DC also has an August birthday, and didn't initially make the compacted math cutoff due to the 3rd grade winter map score. It was in the lower 90s. However, I knew my DC wanted the challenge, so we practiced a bit before the spring map, and the score went up to 96/97 to where that was acceptable score. My DC is absolutely thriving, works independently, and is not supplemented with outside programs.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 14:23     Subject: Who should do Compacted Math?

Please search soooo many threads on this topic and recently too.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 13:03     Subject: Who should do Compacted Math?

What is the criteria for doing compacted math at MCPS? Does it vary school-to-school? My son likes math and has an interest. His Math MAP scores have generally been in the 90-99 range, but recently went down to 80 for his 3rd grade Winter Map Math. He generally also shows little growth in math compared to others. We had not been doing any supplementing, as we didn't want him to be bored in school.

Trying to figure out if I should give him more support and encourage supplementation, so that he has the option for compacted math next year if he wants it, or if I should just let him be, and let him end up where he ends up. I don't want him to miss out on an opportunity to learn though when other families are supplementing, and are more hands-on with their kids' academics.

He is also one of the youngest kids in his grade with an August birthday.