Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 11:34     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Anonymous wrote:The American people are to blame. We get the leaders we deserve. Do better.


This is the right answer.

Biden ran a decent campaign and won.
Harris ran a decent campaign and lost.

The American public is generally too stupid and/or disengaged to understand what is coming.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 11:19     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Americans are stupid OP. 54% have under a 6th grade literacy rate according to Gallup. Unfortunately, unless you live on a coast you are screwed.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 11:09     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The American people are to blame. We get the leaders we deserve. Do better.


Disagree. The voters have almost no control over the top Presidential candidates. I don’t think anyone I ever voted for in a primary was the final nominee, except Obama in 2008.
Trump should have never been legally allowed to run again. That’s a huge failure of the system, not the voters.


That’s for sure.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 11:04     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People get the government they deserve.
w

And its a good government coming on 1/20


^ speaking of failed educational system.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 11:03     Subject: Re:Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

The democrat media aswell as the democrats actions while in office
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 11:02     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Anonymous wrote:Do you blame the DNC more or Biden’s arrogance for this ongoing comedy of errors over the last 4 years?

I originally blamed the DNC for “anointing” HRC in 2016; then (basically) doing the same in 2020 for Biden. Not that the primary slate in 2020 was that great so I get why they promoted him.
And obviously he won. So DNC got it right.
Really, after the debate, Biden was defiant and pissed for a month or so then drops out. Biden basically dictating Harris as his replacement and DNC goes along with it, then DNC blows through all the money and loses.
Now this pardon thing for 11 years is kind over the top to me - for the crimes he was convicted for fine, but anything not even charged yet for over decade seems excessive.

I want to blame the DNC for not making sure Biden would not run again but now I think they could not control a sitting president who is (basically) an arrogant ass.
So frustrating that it is like a comedy of errors that somehow seems to be getting worse when there literally is no election or major events to screw up.

I now think the Biden name should be banned from the Democratic Party for life.


The blame is all Biden’s. He should have forced a special counsel investigation of Jan6th and Trumps criminal activities including the supreme courts involvement on day one. Biden was the wrong man at the wrong time.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 10:59     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Anonymous wrote:People get the government they deserve.
w

And its a good government coming on 1/20
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 10:54     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

People get the government they deserve.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 10:38     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The American people are to blame. We get the leaders we deserve. Do better.


Disagree. The voters have almost no control over the top Presidential candidates. I don’t think anyone I ever voted for in a primary was the final nominee, except Obama in 2008.
Trump should have never been legally allowed to run again. That’s a huge failure of the system, not the voters.


PP again. And saying voters are dumb, well they are dumb because of a failed education system and lack of standards for the media.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 10:38     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I originally blamed the DNC for “anointing” HRC in 2016; then (basically) doing the same in 2020 for Biden. Not that the primary slate in 2020 was that great so I get why they promoted him.
And obviously he won. So DNC got it right.
Really, after the debate, Biden was defiant and pissed for a month or so then drops out. Biden basically dictating Harris as his replacement and DNC goes along with it, then DNC blows through all the money and loses.


The problem is Democrats haven't had an open primary since 2008. Even in 2008, the media stepped in and heavily favored Obama. Democrats can blame messaging all they like, but Democrats haven't had a real debate about issues in a generation. That's why they keep losing to a gross, grifting reality show host. Of course, to debate, Democrats would have to be willing to let their preferred classes (URMs, women, etc.) lose an argument. I don't think they're ready to go that far yet.


That is ridiculous
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 10:36     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Anonymous wrote:The American people are to blame. We get the leaders we deserve. Do better.


Disagree. The voters have almost no control over the top Presidential candidates. I don’t think anyone I ever voted for in a primary was the final nominee, except Obama in 2008.
Trump should have never been legally allowed to run again. That’s a huge failure of the system, not the voters.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 10:34     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Anonymous wrote:The American people are to blame. We get the leaders we deserve. Do better.



This.

Quit reading trash blogs, watching trash news, and listening to trash shock jocks. Educate yourself on media literacy, political science, and history. Raise your standards.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 10:31     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Anonymous wrote:

I originally blamed the DNC for “anointing” HRC in 2016; then (basically) doing the same in 2020 for Biden. Not that the primary slate in 2020 was that great so I get why they promoted him.
And obviously he won. So DNC got it right.
Really, after the debate, Biden was defiant and pissed for a month or so then drops out. Biden basically dictating Harris as his replacement and DNC goes along with it, then DNC blows through all the money and loses.


The problem is Democrats haven't had an open primary since 2008. Even in 2008, the media stepped in and heavily favored Obama. Democrats can blame messaging all they like, but Democrats haven't had a real debate about issues in a generation. That's why they keep losing to a gross, grifting reality show host. Of course, to debate, Democrats would have to be willing to let their preferred classes (URMs, women, etc.) lose an argument. I don't think they're ready to go that far yet.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 10:30     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

The American people are to blame. We get the leaders we deserve. Do better.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2024 10:27     Subject: Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

Do you blame the DNC more or Biden’s arrogance for this ongoing comedy of errors over the last 4 years?

I originally blamed the DNC for “anointing” HRC in 2016; then (basically) doing the same in 2020 for Biden. Not that the primary slate in 2020 was that great so I get why they promoted him.
And obviously he won. So DNC got it right.
Really, after the debate, Biden was defiant and pissed for a month or so then drops out. Biden basically dictating Harris as his replacement and DNC goes along with it, then DNC blows through all the money and loses.
Now this pardon thing for 11 years is kind over the top to me - for the crimes he was convicted for fine, but anything not even charged yet for over decade seems excessive.

I want to blame the DNC for not making sure Biden would not run again but now I think they could not control a sitting president who is (basically) an arrogant ass.
So frustrating that it is like a comedy of errors that somehow seems to be getting worse when there literally is no election or major events to screw up.

I now think the Biden name should be banned from the Democratic Party for life.