Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 11:58     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Primetime Aces is a typical profit driven skeezy baseball farm facility preying on the dreams of kids and parents. It’s a Classic pyramid scheme, starting new teams to pay off old debts. They are negligent on their nvtbsl bills. They have coaches who no-show to private lessons and then charge anyway. They have coaches who are married and are sleeping with team moms. They have coaches under criminal federal investigation and with DUIs who show up high. Their facility has rodents and is filthy. There is no mentorship or player development. They are last to sign up for nvtbsl or always register late so the outdoor practices are all over the place and so far away. The owners have a god complex and think they are king makers when 90% of their “college athletes” are paying double for college just for the privilege to play the bench on a D3 team. Would not trust anyone in that organization to supervise my children any way.


Nobody should expect that from travel baseball, especially when you hit 14u or above.

The best travel programs are focused on college recruitment and will drop and add kids in a heartbeat based on talent. Their job is to constantly be in front of college coaches understanding the types of players they want and then recommending kids that satisfy the college coaches. You will never get to this level without tons of individual training and development and the best programs will pull from a wide region or even nationally, so it's not even practical to have practice and do much development.

Also, D1 colleges don't care much about development anymore either. They only want kids that they think can add direct value no later than Sophomore year, and the transfer portal just means if the kid gets too good then they may easily be out the door to a better program / program where NIL $$$s are a real possibility.

The requirement that teams can't have above a 34-person roster starting in September 2025 just adds an exclamation point that D1 schools won't over-recruit for the Fall, because they can no longer keep 45-50 players right up until the first game in Spring.


To be fair, what parent should be thrilled about putting in a ton of their own money and work, plus the kid putting in countless hours (yes on something they love, but still) in order to profit first the travel ball org and then a college baseball program? Sounds miserable.

I would think there's still a level of travel ball below the recruitment focused one where kids are just there to play, be good enough to play high school, and not make money for an org. Of course then you are probably dealing with Daddy Ball.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 11:52     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
Anonymous wrote:Primetime Aces is a typical profit driven skeezy baseball farm facility preying on the dreams of kids and parents. It’s a Classic pyramid scheme, starting new teams to pay off old debts. They are negligent on their nvtbsl bills. They have coaches who no-show to private lessons and then charge anyway. They have coaches who are married and are sleeping with team moms. They have coaches under criminal federal investigation and with DUIs who show up high. Their facility has rodents and is filthy. There is no mentorship or player development. They are last to sign up for nvtbsl or always register late so the outdoor practices are all over the place and so far away. The owners have a god complex and think they are king makers when 90% of their “college athletes” are paying double for college just for the privilege to play the bench on a D3 team. Would not trust anyone in that organization to supervise my children any way.


Nobody should expect that from travel baseball, especially when you hit 14u or above.

The best travel programs are focused on college recruitment and will drop and add kids in a heartbeat based on talent. Their job is to constantly be in front of college coaches understanding the types of players they want and then recommending kids that satisfy the college coaches. You will never get to this level without tons of individual training and development and the best programs will pull from a wide region or even nationally, so it's not even practical to have practice and do much development.

Also, D1 colleges don't care much about development anymore either. They only want kids that they think can add direct value no later than Sophomore year, and the transfer portal just means if the kid gets too good then they may easily be out the door to a better program / program where NIL $$$s are a real possibility.

The requirement that teams can't have above a 34-person roster starting in September 2025 just adds an exclamation point that D1 schools won't over-recruit for the Fall, because they can no longer keep 45-50 players right up until the first game in Spring.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 11:31     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
Anonymous wrote:Primetime Aces is a typical profit driven skeezy baseball farm facility preying on the dreams of kids and parents. It’s a Classic pyramid scheme, starting new teams to pay off old debts. They are negligent on their nvtbsl bills. They have coaches who no-show to private lessons and then charge anyway. They have coaches who are married and are sleeping with team moms. They have coaches under criminal federal investigation and with DUIs who show up high. Their facility has rodents and is filthy. There is no mentorship or player development. They are last to sign up for nvtbsl or always register late so the outdoor practices are all over the place and so far away. The owners have a god complex and think they are king makers when 90% of their “college athletes” are paying double for college just for the privilege to play the bench on a D3 team. Would not trust anyone in that organization to supervise my children any way.


Anonymous
Post 12/02/2024 09:25     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
I wish this was the exception, but it is how this industry is run. Drives kids out of the sport.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 15:39     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
Anonymous wrote:Aren’t they all like that?


This. Seriously. It’s an industry like any other. They are in business to make money.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 11:55     Subject: Re:Primetime travel baseball scumbags
They were great when they first started, but in the past 3-4 years, they have become a mess.
The coach affair was a one off, but that guy also got fired from the school where he coached.
Most the parent complaints I have encountered were that they were traveling really far for kids who are not eligible to be scouted, so it was a huge waste.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 11:41     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
Anonymous wrote:Aren’t they all like that?

yes. This is almost all of travel baseball. The organizations prey on naive parents who don't know any better.

Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 10:56     Subject: Re:Primetime travel baseball scumbags
Sounds like most travel baseball orgs TBH. Nothing new.

Did they cut your kid or something?
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 10:35     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
Do they do background checks on coaches?
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 10:21     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
No…but it’s hard to figure out the good from the bad.

My personal preference is an organization like the MA Red Sox that have only one team per age group.

They list all college commitments and it’s like 50% D1, a couple of D2s (heavy on schools with a D1 relationship) and the rest D3s.

They also are cutthroat at 17u and will cut 1/2 the team if they don’t think they are college recruitable. They know why kids are on the team and their mission.

We actually had some Primtime refugees and they were guilted like crazy over moving but said it was a great decision.

You also have to be wary of any teams claiming college commits…I know a UVA commit that is claimed by like 5 different travel teams he started playing at 13, even though four had zero to do with his recruitment.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 10:20     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
They are all like that. This one seems particularly predatory. All those stories are true and stories of four different coaches. Yikes
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 10:08     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
Aren’t they all like that?
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 08:40     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
They keep the most thirsty parents in the organization- the ones willing to pull all the tricks to get a kid to “sign” with a crappy college team. Check their Instagram. The college teams are bad.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 08:13     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
Had similar thoughts about the organization when my son did winter hitting there. They have a ton of kids go to play in college though!
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2024 03:15     Subject: Primetime travel baseball scumbags
Primetime Aces is a typical profit driven skeezy baseball farm facility preying on the dreams of kids and parents. It’s a Classic pyramid scheme, starting new teams to pay off old debts. They are negligent on their nvtbsl bills. They have coaches who no-show to private lessons and then charge anyway. They have coaches who are married and are sleeping with team moms. They have coaches under criminal federal investigation and with DUIs who show up high. Their facility has rodents and is filthy. There is no mentorship or player development. They are last to sign up for nvtbsl or always register late so the outdoor practices are all over the place and so far away. The owners have a god complex and think they are king makers when 90% of their “college athletes” are paying double for college just for the privilege to play the bench on a D3 team. Would not trust anyone in that organization to supervise my children any way.