Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is interesting, but my kid didn’t use chat gpt and his essay had a lot of the clichés listed. I don’t care. I think it’s ridiculous that schools want you to be able to write an essay like E.B. White or Dave Barry. High school students have to do that plus cure cancer, have a non profit, be a varsity athlete, blah blah blah. I’m sick of it.
The best points in this piece were 1) schools should have proctored writing tests and 2) rich kids have had help with their essays since colleges started requiring essays, but now that everyone has access, admissions officers don’t like it so much.
Can a kid write in clear sentences? Can they express some humanity and interest in learning? That’s all a student should be expected to do at 17 or 18.
In Some countries, they just have to pass an exam. None of these stupid CV paddings. And that is a little bit closer to true meritocracy.
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting, but my kid didn’t use chat gpt and his essay had a lot of the clichés listed. I don’t care. I think it’s ridiculous that schools want you to be able to write an essay like E.B. White or Dave Barry. High school students have to do that plus cure cancer, have a non profit, be a varsity athlete, blah blah blah. I’m sick of it.
The best points in this piece were 1) schools should have proctored writing tests and 2) rich kids have had help with their essays since colleges started requiring essays, but now that everyone has access, admissions officers don’t like it so much.
Can a kid write in clear sentences? Can they express some humanity and interest in learning? That’s all a student should be expected to do at 17 or 18.
Anonymous wrote:Tricolons are so common. Of course Ai uses them. Everyone does
Anonymous wrote:Thought this was so interesting:
In the past three days, I've reviewed over 100 essays from the 2024-2025 college admissions cycle. Here's how I could tell which ones were written by ChatGPT
https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1h0vhlq/in_the_past_three_days_ive_reviewed_over_100/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Anonymous wrote:This is interesting, but my kid didn’t use chat gpt and his essay had a lot of the clichés listed. I don’t care. I think it’s ridiculous that schools want you to be able to write an essay like E.B. White or Dave Barry. High school students have to do that plus cure cancer, have a non profit, be a varsity athlete, blah blah blah. I’m sick of it.
The best points in this piece were 1) schools should have proctored writing tests and 2) rich kids have had help with their essays since colleges started requiring essays, but now that everyone has access, admissions officers don’t like it so much.
Can a kid write in clear sentences? Can they express some humanity and interest in learning? That’s all a student should be expected to do at 17 or 18.
Anonymous wrote:1. Vocabulary
2. Extended metaphor
(especially, Weaving;
Cooking; Painting; Dance; and Music)
3. Punctuation
4. Tricolons (especially ascending tricolons)
5. “I [verb]ed that the true meaning of X is not only Y, it's also Z”
6. “As I [synonym for advance in my education], I will [synonym for carry or incorporate] this [lesson or value]”
7. “Lord of the Rings” syndrome (multiple endings)
Anonymous wrote:Tricolons are so common. Of course Ai uses them. Everyone does
Anonymous wrote:My guess, what matters isn't whether AOs have guessed, or detected, whether an essay was written with AI. What matters is whether the essay is at least mildly interesting and comes across as having the authentic voice of the student, vs boring, as if everyone-in-AI's-database could have written it.