Anonymous wrote:OP why don’t you know your child’s cogat score?
I would not include the WISC in regular application.
And I’m not sure the results would be helpful on appeal.

Not OP but cogAT scores haven't come back yet for gr 2.

To the previous poster telling OP to wait for the CogAT scores, that doesn't make sense because the scores will not be available before the parent referral deadline.

To the person saying why is the AART refusing to advise, this goes beyond the standard kind of advising they should provide. They are not to tell you if your work samples are awesome or if you should add a wisc score to make your package stronger.

OP why don’t you know your child’s cogat score?
I would not include the WISC in regular application.
And I’m not sure the results would be helpful on appeal.

Anonymous wrote:We had a WISC for DD - grade 2 done this fall with GMU

Scores:
FSIQ: 115
Verbal Comprehension Index: 113
Visual Spatial Index: 114
Fluid Reasoning Index: 115
Working Memory Index:130
Processing Speed: 98

NNAT: 138
COGAT: We do not know but AART pulled her into differentiated math based on COGAT quantitative score

Should I include or not include WISC? I already asked the AART and she refuses to provide advice on whether to include these.

What would u do for your DS/DD if you were me??

What’s with your AART refusing to advise???
Doesn’t seem like someone who is very invested in your child being placed into the program, and that would make me wonder why.
Do you have a strained relationship with your school’s AART? Is she irritated by your child or by you?
Our AART many years ago was happy to offer her advice (when asked) to any parent. She would be very honest about her take though. Like she would have said “those are great!—submit and see what happens!” Or “those scores might be borderline, so it’s hard to say. I’ll leave that up to you.” Or “i don’t think those scores are going to move the needle on appeal, so stick to additional work samples.”
I can’t see the AART just refusing to weigh in at all. Doesn’t seem helpful and I’d have to question why that’s her stance. Maybe she was told not to. Maybe she got burned by a prior parent when she told them to submit scores and the kid didn’t get in and parent was mad at her advice.

Just wait for the CoGaT you can submit it after you get the results if you want. But don’t if the CogAT is great. Save it for appeal

The WiSC Scores are solid, they say that you have an above average child. They are not scores that fall into the gifted category. My kids score was a 135 and I don’t think that falls into the gifted category.

The in-pool scores before they moved to school based scores was a 132, your kids WiSC scores are not close to what would have been considered in-pool. Most of the people who applied for their kids had CoGAT or WiSC scores that were closer to 132.

You are better off hoping that the CoGAT was closer to the NNAT score and not the WiSC score. The NNAT score is would probably be in-pool in many ES’s but there are a few were the in-pool scores were in the 140s.

Anonymous wrote:What is a good WISC score? I have to imagine it varies a lot by school?

Public school gifted programs in districts I have lived in have typically had a 130 cutoff.

Does she possibly have ADHD? The combo of very high NNAT and relatively low WISC would make me wonder.

By school? They don’t take WiSC’s at school.
Anything that is 99 th percentile.

What is a good WISC score? I have to imagine it varies a lot by school?

Anonymous wrote:We had a WISC for DD - grade 2 done this fall with GMU

Scores:
FSIQ: 115
Verbal Comprehension Index: 113
Visual Spatial Index: 114
Fluid Reasoning Index: 115
Working Memory Index:130
Processing Speed: 98

NNAT: 138
COGAT: We do not know but AART pulled her into differentiated math based on COGAT quantitative score

Should I include or not include WISC? I already asked the AART and she refuses to provide advice on whether to include these.

What would u do for your DS/DD if you were me??

You’re seriously misinformed. No AART has any COGAT scores. No schools have them. Also, content specific services (aka Level 2) are not pull out services.

I can’t imagine it would help.

What was the reason for taking the WISC?

Anonymous wrote:I would not include that WISC. The NNAT is good so if the COGAT is good as well then that WISC score will not help your case. I would only include the WISC if it's around 130 or higher, but that's just me.

+1. Do not include.

No. It’s not a great score.

I would not include that WISC. The NNAT is good so if the COGAT is good as well then that WISC score will not help your case. I would only include the WISC if it's around 130 or higher, but that's just me.

We had a WISC for DD - grade 2 done this fall with GMU

Scores:
FSIQ: 115
Verbal Comprehension Index: 113
Visual Spatial Index: 114
Fluid Reasoning Index: 115
Working Memory Index:130
Processing Speed: 98

NNAT: 138
COGAT: We do not know but AART pulled her into differentiated math based on COGAT quantitative score

Should I include or not include WISC? I already asked the AART and she refuses to provide advice on whether to include these.

What would u do for your DS/DD if you were me??