Uh huh. And I'm a fed whose paperwork says "salaried exempt," but I still need to take PTO for every hour I'm not working. Remote work allows me to take only 2 hours for a doctor's appointment instead of 4+ (I live very far from the office), but none of this "just check my email and since I'm salaried I worked that day." I thought only private sector operated that way. Happy to clear that up for you.

How do you know all of this info about acquaintances?

Anonymous wrote:I’m a fed lawyer, headed to work at 6:30 am. Will probably be home around 6 pm, spend an hour with my family, and then work from home until bed. That is typical for me. Similar to when I was in biglaw but a much lower salary.

This. I’m a DOJ attorney. I posted this in another thread but we typically work 60-80 hour weeks at my component. I was forced to skip about half of my third trimester prenatal/MFM appointments because of court obligations. No one here is living particularly well.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to any pickleball courts in the DMV and you will find A LOT of remote Fed workers playing pickleball during normal work hours. There are also A LOT of remote Fed workers at public golf courses during normal work hours. I have played with so many of them for the past five years. They book the golf tee times under their spouse's names, so that it can not be traced back to them.

Please like Feds have the money for even regular play on a public course.

They definitely do, especially those GS-14/15 with specialized pay. I know several GS-14 people at DHS making over 212K/yr. Public golf courses in Fairfax County are very affordable. It costs $39 for an 18-hole round of golf. When a Fed works remotely, he/she saves money on lunch & transportation, and use that money for golf. It's not that hard to understand.

Anonymous wrote:We have the same problem in corporate America. There are the hard workers and then those who skate by. It took me almost a year to fire a person who was doing basically no work.

For every Fed worker reading a newspaper I see a nepo hire. There are inequalities all over.

The Feds are the last bastion of MC life though where the expectation is just 40 hour weeks for many and some stability, the same deal corp workers had in the 60s. I can see why the corporate masters want to end it.

Anonymous wrote:Go to any pickleball courts in the DMV and you will find A LOT of remote Fed workers playing pickleball during normal work hours. There are also A LOT of remote Fed workers at public golf courses during normal work hours. I have played with so many of them for the past five years. They book the golf tee times under their spouse's names, so that it can not be traced back to them.

Please like Feds have the money for even regular play on a public course.

Go to any pickleball courts in the DMV and you will find A LOT of remote Fed workers playing pickleball during normal work hours. There are also A LOT of remote Fed workers at public golf courses during normal work hours. I have played with so many of them for the past five years. They book the golf tee times under their spouse's names, so that it can not be traced back to them.

Why can’t I ever get through to anyone at companies I do business with? Why can’t my service tech do their job competently, show up on time, and have hours that work with my schedule? Why do I have to wait hours at a doctors office and have no one pick up the phone? Why did my pain pill cost $1000 to administer at the hospital? Why is my bill going up for XYZ service and I have to do all the paperwork myself? Why is the server sitting there on their phone and not taking my order?

I could go on and on, but the private sector is not a highlight of competency or efficiency either.

The DC area has a lot of highly educated, highly subspecialized federal workers who work incredibly hard. Nice try.

We have the same problem in corporate America. There are the hard workers and then those who skate by. It took me almost a year to fire a person who was doing basically no work.

Here we go. Unless you have worked there OP you have no idea. I have worked in state, Fed, non profit, small and large private and consulting.

For public servants there are always the ones who work their butts off, care about the mission and manage well (around the red tape and BS). Then there are the bums. Seriously bad. If they are reading the paper blatantly, they tell you they are "on break". The ones who file grievances. The ones who insist on special accommodations for special (made up) needs.

I too would love to trim out the horrible ones. Everyone would. But don't throw out the good with the bad!

Pretty bold to make assumptions about 3 million people by using three people (you don’t actually observe during the workday) as an example. Objectively, you can see why that’s stupid, right OP?

Also about to head out of the house at 6:33 am. I work hard all day and deserve every penny I’m earning for my work, which is helping all citizens and keeping our country safe. Sounds like OP needs better quality friends.

I’m a fed lawyer, headed to work at 6:30 am. Will probably be home around 6 pm, spend an hour with my family, and then work from home until bed. That is typical for me. Similar to when I was in biglaw but a much lower salary.

I'm a non fed with a few fed and state gov friends/acquaintances. For years I've always been mildly annoyed at what I've seen in terms of their work ethic. I get annoyed bc it is such a waste of taxpayer dollars which is paid by every single one of us.

I do think that gov employees should be able to be fired for poor performance etc. I do think gov workforce should be cut bc there are too many fat cats.
Some gov friend stories:
One friend barely works and spends most of her time shopping and texting friends her various shopping finds during the day.
One friend has weeks and weeks of ptonbc she doesn't have to take any. If she needs a day or a few off she only has to check email once or maybe make a call and she does not need to take pto for the entire 8 hrs
One person I know who works for a hhs told me that her job involves supervising others but she literally just does zero work all day long. She works on her side business.
I could go on.

So I personally am looking forward to a trimmed down government employee model. I'm sure this will get a lot of hate. But this is just my own opinion after years of observation.