Anonymous wrote:Pell and federal student loans would be taken over by another department

This exactly. No one is being rational. I worked as a senior political there. It truly is a wasteland. We used to joke that you could do away with everyone at ED but the general counsel's office and ED front office
and everything would be just fine. stop listening to the histyeria and fear mongering. Think! Many ED programs like Pell, FAFSA amd IDEA are the result of congressional acts. Trump can't undo them without massive effort. The are NOT ED Acts. Many of these were handled by HEW before pre-carter's idea to start this wasteful agency. The few programs that stand (IMHO the fed programs shoukd be dissolved and all issues sent back to the state where the legislators can actually hear what their constituents want) will just continue at ED or be sent back to HEW (where they were originally before ED, now renamed HHS) or be sent out by government contact where it will be handled more efficiently than ED has ever done. Yes i had student loans too! but issued and handled efficiently long before Carter and ED.

Anonymous wrote:Project 2025 says federal aid programs would move under the Treasury department, which is where they were before the Dept of Ed was created in the 70s.

At that time, FSA was not the fifth largest lending organization in the US.

Also, maybe less relevant to DCUMers, but low-income students, and particularly veterans (because of GI benefits), are routinely predated upon by institutions of very low quality—the DeVos ED actually “partnered” with some of them, and a bunch of them collapsed leaving students with no degrees and massive debt.

If you have no discernment function about which institutions can participate in financial aid programs, you are setting up many bad outcomes down the road. Treasury is not a good choice for this.

We are a low income family. Our backup plan is always the CC route. Even with federal aid it’s not so affordable

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Anonymous wrote:Pell and federal student loans would be taken over by another department

It goes to the state to deploy.

in a block grant? because that doesn't work so well in red states. whenever they can get their hands on money, they like to convert it into vouchers for Christian schools.

I read it would go to the state in the form of a block grant. Maybe that’s not how it will really be deployed - but expect a lot of delays if you rely on this.

I would expect some college admissions offices might make admissions decisions accordingly this year.

Project 2025 says federal aid programs would move under the Treasury department, which is where they were before the Dept of Ed was created in the 70s.

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Anonymous wrote:Pell and federal student loans would be taken over by another department

It goes to the state to deploy.

in a block grant? because that doesn't work so well in red states. whenever they can get their hands on money, they like to convert it into vouchers for Christian schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Pell and federal student loans would be taken over by another department

WEll let's hope so. I'm not assuming anything that is logical with this administration.
Then again, they might just decide not to fund them as much. Their entire goal is to ensure education of their voters does not happen

they will be done. someone needs to work the essential jobs now unfulfilled due to deportations.

Anonymous wrote:Pell and federal student loans would be taken over by another department

It goes to the state to deploy.

Anonymous wrote:Pell and federal student loans would be taken over by another department

WEll let's hope so. I'm not assuming anything that is logical with this administration.
Then again, they might just decide not to fund them as much. Their entire goal is to ensure education of their voters does not happen

Pell and federal student loans would be taken over by another department

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Anonymous wrote:In the scenario the Dept of Education gets reduced to a the Head and a secretary, and Pell Grants and Federal Student Loan programs are eliminated, what will happen with all the students that depend on those programs?

We saved up, and sacrificed to pay for college, but I worry for low income students who are already in school, and those who depended on this aid. Will they even apply?

I imagine Pell Grants for 4-year university programs will be the first to go / be cut, with a focus on redirecting funding to Career Training programs and certificates. I imagine that universities that do not guarantee 100% demonstrated financial need will see a big drop in applications and enrollment.

Only 75 universities currently claim to "meet demonstrated financial need". Most are private schools that already cost a lot. Most poor kids are not applying to schools like that---most are doing CC to 4 year state or 4 year state school with some merit.

This was me, sort of. I went to CC in California. I was able to pay most of that tuition with my side job. One I transferred to a CSU, I was lucky to qualify for Pell Grants. I would have never made it through without Pell Grants, and that was back when college was not as expensive as it is now. I feel for the kids now.

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Anonymous wrote:In the scenario the Dept of Education gets reduced to a the Head and a secretary, and Pell Grants and Federal Student Loan programs are eliminated, what will happen with all the students that depend on those programs?

We saved up, and sacrificed to pay for college, but I worry for low income students who are already in school, and those who depended on this aid. Will they even apply?

I imagine Pell Grants for 4-year university programs will be the first to go / be cut, with a focus on redirecting funding to Career Training programs and certificates. I imagine that universities that do not guarantee 100% demonstrated financial need will see a big drop in applications and enrollment.

Only 75 universities currently claim to "meet demonstrated financial need". Most are private schools that already cost a lot. Most poor kids are not applying to schools like that---most are doing CC to 4 year state or 4 year state school with some merit.

Anonymous wrote:In the scenario the Dept of Education gets reduced to a the Head and a secretary, and Pell Grants and Federal Student Loan programs are eliminated, what will happen with all the students that depend on those programs?

We saved up, and sacrificed to pay for college, but I worry for low income students who are already in school, and those who depended on this aid. Will they even apply?

I imagine Pell Grants for 4-year university programs will be the first to go / be cut, with a focus on redirecting funding to Career Training programs and certificates. I imagine that universities that do not guarantee 100% demonstrated financial need will see a big drop in applications and enrollment.

In the scenario the Dept of Education gets reduced to a the Head and a secretary, and Pell Grants and Federal Student Loan programs are eliminated, what will happen with all the students that depend on those programs?

We saved up, and sacrificed to pay for college, but I worry for low income students who are already in school, and those who depended on this aid. Will they even apply?