Anonymous
11/08/2024 10:17
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
Many of them do, maybe more advanced. Everyone in AAP class has some kind of math enrichment outside school. Frankly most of them can easily do one grade above.
Yeah, this is not true. Plenty of kids in AAP are not doing any type of enrichment. If you are at a Center that is majority Asia you are more likely to find families sending kids to enrichment. If you are at a school with fewer Asian kids you will find fewer kids participating in enrichment. DS is white and does participate in enrichment, he takes math competition classes, and 75% of his class is Asian, the remainder is mainly Eastern European. His schools math counts team is pretty much the same way. Enrichment and emphasis on math is very much a cultural thing that most Western European white families don't participate in. Tutoring or using something like RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium to fill in gaps or catch up is more likely for Western European white families.
Are RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium not considered enrichment? I am so confused. What kind of OTHER enrichment do you think Asian/Eastern Europeans student go? There must be others but RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium have plenty of non-western european students.
It's not about AAP being superior. Even without AAP many families would have kids study ahead. I was just describing our AAP class, I've seen child's classmates in enrichment classes, kids show off advance match subjects to each other etc (maybe they learnt from their older sibling). I have no statistic proving "every student" was enriching, I wasn't writing a term paper but an anonymous post, but plenty of them do.
The actual hard data on AAP shows that AAP kids are slightly advanced in math and that's about it. And it's really not hard to be slightly advanced compared to Virginia's math sequence. It takes no outside enrichment for your average hard-working or slightly bright kid.
A good number of kids receive enrichment/supplement for a variety of reasons. There are schools were there is a stronger culture of enrichment then others. My kids ES had very little enrichment, we knew of 3 kids out of 90 doing outside math for enrichment and a larger number working with tutors to stay on grade level. We had friends who told us their kids ES had half the kids in AoPS or RSM.
There are schools where there is more peer pressure to take extra classes than others. DS has already had teachers and peers assume he is taking Geometry this summer because that is what the kids at his school do. It is a totally different environment then his ES where most of classmates choose 7th H over Algebra 1 in 7th grade because acceleration is not a big deal to folks.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 10:15
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
Many of them do, maybe more advanced. Everyone in AAP class has some kind of math enrichment outside school. Frankly most of them can easily do one grade above.
Yeah, this is not true. Plenty of kids in AAP are not doing any type of enrichment. If you are at a Center that is majority Asia you are more likely to find families sending kids to enrichment. If you are at a school with fewer Asian kids you will find fewer kids participating in enrichment. DS is white and does participate in enrichment, he takes math competition classes, and 75% of his class is Asian, the remainder is mainly Eastern European. His schools math counts team is pretty much the same way. Enrichment and emphasis on math is very much a cultural thing that most Western European white families don't participate in. Tutoring or using something like RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium to fill in gaps or catch up is more likely for Western European white families.
Are RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium not considered enrichment? I am so confused. What kind of OTHER enrichment do you think Asian/Eastern Europeans student go? There must be others but RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium have plenty of non-western european students.
It's not about AAP being superior. Even without AAP many families would have kids study ahead. I was just describing our AAP class, I've seen child's classmates in enrichment classes, kids show off advance match subjects to each other etc (maybe they learnt from their older sibling). I have no statistic proving "every student" was enriching, I wasn't writing a term paper but an anonymous post, but plenty of them do.
The actual hard data on AAP shows that AAP kids are slightly advanced in math and that's about it. And it's really not hard to be slightly advanced compared to Virginia's math sequence. It takes no outside enrichment for your average hard-working or slightly bright kid.
Virginia's math sequence is not what determined who get in TJ or top colleges. Not everyone wants to get in engineering and I don't see the value of calc in chemistry/medical tracked students, but for kids going to engineering math enrichment is essential to get math course sequencing right to apply to top colleges, regardless they are in TJ or not.
Anonymous
11/08/2024 09:53
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
Many of them do, maybe more advanced. Everyone in AAP class has some kind of math enrichment outside school. Frankly most of them can easily do one grade above.
Yeah, this is not true. Plenty of kids in AAP are not doing any type of enrichment. If you are at a Center that is majority Asia you are more likely to find families sending kids to enrichment. If you are at a school with fewer Asian kids you will find fewer kids participating in enrichment. DS is white and does participate in enrichment, he takes math competition classes, and 75% of his class is Asian, the remainder is mainly Eastern European. His schools math counts team is pretty much the same way. Enrichment and emphasis on math is very much a cultural thing that most Western European white families don't participate in. Tutoring or using something like RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium to fill in gaps or catch up is more likely for Western European white families.
Are RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium not considered enrichment? I am so confused. What kind of OTHER enrichment do you think Asian/Eastern Europeans student go? There must be others but RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium have plenty of non-western european students.
It's not about AAP being superior. Even without AAP many families would have kids study ahead. I was just describing our AAP class, I've seen child's classmates in enrichment classes, kids show off advance match subjects to each other etc (maybe they learnt from their older sibling). I have no statistic proving "every student" was enriching, I wasn't writing a term paper but an anonymous post, but plenty of them do.
The actual hard data on AAP shows that AAP kids are slightly advanced in math and that's about it. And it's really not hard to be slightly advanced compared to Virginia's math sequence. It takes no outside enrichment for your average hard-working or slightly bright kid.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 20:24
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
One could wonder why they aren’t actually doing better than they are? All the years of supplemental work..,
Algebra at 7th grade, leads to Calc AB or BC at 11th. That's many people's course sequence. I don't want my kid to do any better, Algebra at 6th is for real genius.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 18:56
Subject: Iready scores 2024
My AAP kid has never had any outside school math enrichment. We are white. I also view "enrichment" as something you do if youre struggling to keep up. Its weird to assume everyone is doing that for fun.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 17:26
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Yes, lots of supplemental math going on. One could wonder why they aren’t actually doing better than they are? All the years of supplemental work..,Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
Many of them do, maybe more advanced. Everyone in AAP class has some kind of math enrichment outside school. Frankly most of them can easily do one grade above.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 16:49
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
Many of them do, maybe more advanced. Everyone in AAP class has some kind of math enrichment outside school. Frankly most of them can easily do one grade above.
Yeah, this is not true. Plenty of kids in AAP are not doing any type of enrichment. If you are at a Center that is majority Asia you are more likely to find families sending kids to enrichment. If you are at a school with fewer Asian kids you will find fewer kids participating in enrichment. DS is white and does participate in enrichment, he takes math competition classes, and 75% of his class is Asian, the remainder is mainly Eastern European. His schools math counts team is pretty much the same way. Enrichment and emphasis on math is very much a cultural thing that most Western European white families don't participate in. Tutoring or using something like RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium to fill in gaps or catch up is more likely for Western European white families.
Are RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium not considered enrichment? I am so confused. What kind of OTHER enrichment do you think Asian/Eastern Europeans student go? There must be others but RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium have plenty of non-western european students.
It's not about AAP being superior. Even without AAP many families would have kids study ahead. I was just describing our AAP class, I've seen child's classmates in enrichment classes, kids show off advance match subjects to each other etc (maybe they learnt from their older sibling). I have no statistic proving "every student" was enriching, I wasn't writing a term paper but an anonymous post, but plenty of them do.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 14:36
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
Many of them do, maybe more advanced. Everyone in AAP class has some kind of math enrichment outside school. Frankly most of them can easily do one grade above.
Yeah, this is not true. Plenty of kids in AAP are not doing any type of enrichment. If you are at a Center that is majority Asia you are more likely to find families sending kids to enrichment. If you are at a school with fewer Asian kids you will find fewer kids participating in enrichment. DS is white and does participate in enrichment, he takes math competition classes, and 75% of his class is Asian, the remainder is mainly Eastern European. His schools math counts team is pretty much the same way. Enrichment and emphasis on math is very much a cultural thing that most Western European white families don't participate in. Tutoring or using something like RSM/Kumon/Mathnasium to fill in gaps or catch up is more likely for Western European white families.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 14:31
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
Many of them do, maybe more advanced. Everyone in AAP class has some kind of math enrichment outside school. Frankly most of them can easily do one grade above.
Not a blanket truth. We don’t supplement. No tutors. No classes. I do hear of others who supplement but some don’t.
For my 4th grader in AAP, Fall iReady scores were at mid 4th grade level.
Mid 4th grade level - 99th percentile
Anonymous
11/07/2024 14:29
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
Many of them do, maybe more advanced. Everyone in AAP class has some kind of math enrichment outside school. Frankly most of them can easily do one grade above.
Not a blanket truth. We don’t supplement. No tutors. No classes. I do hear of others who supplement but some don’t.
For my 4th grader in AAP, Fall iReady scores were at mid 4th grade level.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 13:39
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
Many of them do, maybe more advanced. Everyone in AAP class has some kind of math enrichment outside school. Frankly most of them can easily do one grade above.
At our center this was definitely not true. Maybe 2 or 3 per class (not grade, class, there were typically 3 AAP classes) were enriched. About half ended up in Algebra 1 Honors in 7th and half in Pre-Algebra Honors. Plenty of kids did not score well on the fall iReady and a special area of concern was typically reading.
The whole "AAP kids are more special than the specialist special" attitude you sometimes come across on this forum is weird. Frankly when a whole bunch of formerly gen ed kids joined my kid's math class in 6th grade for push-in advanced math, they were all equally capable to the kids who had been in the program all along.
Anonymous
11/07/2024 07:54
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Anonymous wrote:Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
Many of them do, maybe more advanced. Everyone in AAP class has some kind of math enrichment outside school. Frankly most of them can easily do one grade above.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 20:40
Subject: Re:Iready scores 2024
Thank you so much for the information!. Appreciate the quick response. May I know if the AAP kids will score similar ie will be in late 4th grade or they may be ahead of their grade too ?. DD is new to AAP just want to know the info trying to understand .
Anonymous
11/06/2024 20:27
Subject: Iready scores 2024
https://schoolsnews.org/iready-diagnostic-scores-2024-2025-k8-ready-percentiles-chart-table-by-grade-math
Her raw score might be 99% for fall iready, but check ahead for winter and spring iready to see if her score landed somewhere below 99%, that's what "late" 4th grade means.
Her raw score might be 99% for fall iready, but check ahead for winter and spring iready to see if her score landed somewhere below 99%, that's what "late" 4th grade means.
Anonymous
11/06/2024 19:40
Subject: Iready scores 2024
Hello ,
I had Parent teacher conference last week where DD's teacher discussed iready scores with me . DD is in 99 % and said that she is in late 4th(she is currently in 4th grade). Just curious to know whether its the same for all AAP kids or some others may fall more advance than their grades like one or two grades ahead?. Also is there a link to see the percentiles across the grades for 2024?.
I had Parent teacher conference last week where DD's teacher discussed iready scores with me . DD is in 99 % and said that she is in late 4th(she is currently in 4th grade). Just curious to know whether its the same for all AAP kids or some others may fall more advance than their grades like one or two grades ahead?. Also is there a link to see the percentiles across the grades for 2024?.