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Anonymous wrote:These last two years Metro has also had a ton of shake-ups at 18s due to players leaving early for college. There is always turnover/movement at 18s for various reasons, but players leaving early for college has created even more volatility.

That definitely happened last year, but it isn't quite as drastic this year. 18T looks to be shaping up with 12 players from 17T, 2 players who played up to 18T last year, and the player that came from Paramount.

The Georgia Tech commit left early, no? But not the PSU or Purdue commit?

That's correct, at least for now.

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Anonymous wrote:These last two years Metro has also had a ton of shake-ups at 18s due to players leaving early for college. There is always turnover/movement at 18s for various reasons, but players leaving early for college has created even more volatility.

That definitely happened last year, but it isn't quite as drastic this year. 18T looks to be shaping up with 12 players from 17T, 2 players who played up to 18T last year, and the player that came from Paramount.

The Georgia Tech commit left early, no? But not the PSU or Purdue commit?

Anonymous wrote:These last two years Metro has also had a ton of shake-ups at 18s due to players leaving early for college. There is always turnover/movement at 18s for various reasons, but players leaving early for college has created even more volatility.

That definitely happened last year, but it isn't quite as drastic this year. 18T looks to be shaping up with 12 players from 17T, 2 players who played up to 18T last year, and the player that came from Paramount.

These last two years Metro has also had a ton of shake-ups at 18s due to players leaving early for college. There is always turnover/movement at 18s for various reasons, but players leaving early for college has created even more volatility.

Players always gravitate towards Metro and Paramount at 18s. Nobody else has ever been able to form Open-Bid caliber teams at that age group. VAE does have a strong returning team this year, but that is an exception.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm connected in that age group. Paramount took the 6 best players from VAJRS from last season. Metro took a strong player from Paramount's team from last season, as well as the setter who was playing up. VAE took one of Paramount's middles from last season and one of their DS/L. Paramount also brought in Renaissance's top setter from last season, a MB from VAE, and probably the strongest player from CVA's club.

It does not surprise me that Jrs team is on shaky ground. My guess is that will end up being a 9-10 player roster, with several players on it who would be playing up. My guess is Jrs. is in the process of trying to convince some players to play up in order to form their team. Jrs is a sinking ship as a club, with the exception of their 16s team.

If the math is right, that means Paramount added 9 players to their 18s roster who didn’t play with with them last year, and lost 2 to VAE and 2 to metro meaning they added a net 5 to a 10 player roster from last year. So are they a 15 player roster?

That is huge turnover at 18s. Losing 3-4 players and adding 3-4 to replace is typical. Losing 4 and adding 9? Don’t remember that happening at the top tier of 18s in recent memory.

14 player roster. The setter they lost was playing up last season; she's playing with Metro 17s this season

The Paramount setter playing up was the only setter on that team at the end of last season. The other setter that team started the season with was part of the mid-season exodus of players. They definitely picked up most of the best players from last year's VAJRs 17s, so hopefully that will allow them to rebuild. A little bit funny that team continuity/chemistry might start with the 6 VAJRs players who move over together rather than a core of Paramount players that have been together in prior seasons.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm connected in that age group. Paramount took the 6 best players from VAJRS from last season. Metro took a strong player from Paramount's team from last season, as well as the setter who was playing up. VAE took one of Paramount's middles from last season and one of their DS/L. Paramount also brought in Renaissance's top setter from last season, a MB from VAE, and probably the strongest player from CVA's club.

It does not surprise me that Jrs team is on shaky ground. My guess is that will end up being a 9-10 player roster, with several players on it who would be playing up. My guess is Jrs. is in the process of trying to convince some players to play up in order to form their team. Jrs is a sinking ship as a club, with the exception of their 16s team.

If the math is right, that means Paramount added 9 players to their 18s roster who didn’t play with with them last year, and lost 2 to VAE and 2 to metro meaning they added a net 5 to a 10 player roster from last year. So are they a 15 player roster?

That is huge turnover at 18s. Losing 3-4 players and adding 3-4 to replace is typical. Losing 4 and adding 9? Don’t remember that happening at the top tier of 18s in recent memory.

14 player roster. The setter they lost was playing up last season; she's playing with Metro 17s this season

So based on Paramounts last years’ initial roster of 15: 5 left during season, 5 left after season, and 5 stayed.

Effectively, Paramount and VA Juniors had to combine their 18s team to get to a roster this year.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm connected in that age group. Paramount took the 6 best players from VAJRS from last season. Metro took a strong player from Paramount's team from last season, as well as the setter who was playing up. VAE took one of Paramount's middles from last season and one of their DS/L. Paramount also brought in Renaissance's top setter from last season, a MB from VAE, and probably the strongest player from CVA's club.

It does not surprise me that Jrs team is on shaky ground. My guess is that will end up being a 9-10 player roster, with several players on it who would be playing up. My guess is Jrs. is in the process of trying to convince some players to play up in order to form their team. Jrs is a sinking ship as a club, with the exception of their 16s team.

If the math is right, that means Paramount added 9 players to their 18s roster who didn’t play with with them last year, and lost 2 to VAE and 2 to metro meaning they added a net 5 to a 10 player roster from last year. So are they a 15 player roster?

That is huge turnover at 18s. Losing 3-4 players and adding 3-4 to replace is typical. Losing 4 and adding 9? Don’t remember that happening at the top tier of 18s in recent memory.

14 player roster. The setter they lost was playing up last season; she's playing with Metro 17s this season

Anonymous wrote:I'm connected in that age group. Paramount took the 6 best players from VAJRS from last season. Metro took a strong player from Paramount's team from last season, as well as the setter who was playing up. VAE took one of Paramount's middles from last season and one of their DS/L. Paramount also brought in Renaissance's top setter from last season, a MB from VAE, and probably the strongest player from CVA's club.

It does not surprise me that Jrs team is on shaky ground. My guess is that will end up being a 9-10 player roster, with several players on it who would be playing up. My guess is Jrs. is in the process of trying to convince some players to play up in order to form their team. Jrs is a sinking ship as a club, with the exception of their 16s team.

If the math is right, that means Paramount added 9 players to their 18s roster who didn’t play with with them last year, and lost 2 to VAE and 2 to metro meaning they added a net 5 to a 10 player roster from last year. So are they a 15 player roster?

That is huge turnover at 18s. Losing 3-4 players and adding 3-4 to replace is typical. Losing 4 and adding 9? Don’t remember that happening at the top tier of 18s in recent memory.

I'm connected in that age group. Paramount took the 6 best players from VAJRS from last season. Metro took a strong player from Paramount's team from last season, as well as the setter who was playing up. VAE took one of Paramount's middles from last season and one of their DS/L. Paramount also brought in Renaissance's top setter from last season, a MB from VAE, and probably the strongest player from CVA's club.

It does not surprise me that Jrs team is on shaky ground. My guess is that will end up being a 9-10 player roster, with several players on it who would be playing up. My guess is Jrs. is in the process of trying to convince some players to play up in order to form their team. Jrs is a sinking ship as a club, with the exception of their 16s team.

FPYCparent wrote:A friend of mine has a player at VA Juniors (not 18s), but sees evidence of an 18s team with at least 8 players having accepted offers. Their 18s team is listed as "accepted" for events in Raleigh, Columbus (Q), and Boston (Q). No teams (for any club) have yet been entered for Cap Hill and NEQ 18s.

I don't know if different rules apply to 18s teams given the compressed schedule, but it seems they just need one more local tournament to meet the Bid Regionals requirement.

I would be surprised if VAJRs couldn't find enough players to field an 18s team. Even if a core group of players have gone to other clubs, I'd expect there to be enough 18s players still looking to move to a higher tier team to fill out their roster. You can see who is registered for 18s Regionals (https://www.advancedeventsystems.com/events/37626) and they aren't there, but they also don't have 16s or 17s teams registered for bid regionals (although there are younger VAJRs teams shown https://www.advancedeventsystems.com/events/37628) so maybe they have a different plan for this season.

A friend of mine has a player at VA Juniors (not 18s), but sees evidence of an 18s team with at least 8 players having accepted offers. Their 18s team is listed as "accepted" for events in Raleigh, Columbus (Q), and Boston (Q). No teams (for any club) have yet been entered for Cap Hill and NEQ 18s.

I don't know if different rules apply to 18s teams given the compressed schedule, but it seems they just need one more local tournament to meet the Bid Regionals requirement.

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It's not that uncommon for a club to advertise tryouts for 18s, but not have enough players to field a team.

Thanks for this informed response. I had no idea that this was relatively commonplace. The last-minute nature of the 18s cancellations took me by surprise.

With the new NCAA roster limits, most CHRVA clubs (except Metro) will likely have a small number of college commitments going forward. So it makes sense that more players are opting out of the 18s season.

at least 5 players are moving from VAJRs to Paramount and 1 other player moved from VAJRs to MVSA

Yikes.
VAJrs seems to be on particularly shaky ground -- because they market their college recruiting results so hard. If their top five or six 2025 players moved to Paramount this season, that's kind of a no-confidence vote for VAJrs.

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like some local CHRVA Clubs that usually have 18s teams may be canceling them at the last minute

Renaissance closed months ago. Legacy & Chesapeake Elite informed players there wouldn't be 18s before tryouts even started.

But what is going on with the 18s teams for VAJuniors & Loudoun Elite?

These clubs are not registered for CHRVA 18s BID or local tournaments required for BID. Also missing from other tournament registration lists.

These clubs market themselves as focused on college recruiting, but where are their 18s teams and actual commitments?

There tends to be a drop off in the number of girls participating at 18s. Many who are not going to play in college (in other words, most club players) decide they'd rather not play during the second half of their senior year. It's not that uncommon for a club to advertise tryouts for 18s, but not have enough players to field a team. If what you're saying is true, it's nonetheless surprising VA Juniors won't have an 18s team because, as you note, they are usually a team with some college commits. If it is true for VAJRs, it must be a recent decision as they have an 18s team registered and accepted for the City of Oaks Challenge and Ohio Valley 18s Qualifier.

While most full rosters aren't released yet, I've heard of some moves between clubs for 18s and at least 5 players are moving from VAJRs to Paramount and 1 other player moved from VAJRs to MVSA. It makes sense that Paramount would need to add some players to that team as they finished last season with only 10 girls on their 17s and at least 3 players from last year's Paramount 17s are moving to other clubs, 2 to Metro and 1 to VAE. It seems pretty likely that Metro, VAE, and Paramount will be the top 18s teams in the region this year, but VAJRs not having an 18s would be helpful for some of the other clubs that typically battle with them for bids at regionals, including MDJRs, Liberty Elite, and MVSA.

So it looks like some local CHRVA Clubs that usually have 18s teams may be canceling them at the last minute

Renaissance closed months ago. Legacy & Chesapeake Elite informed players there wouldn't be 18s before tryouts even started.

But what is going on with the 18s teams for VAJuniors & Loudoun Elite?

These clubs are not registered for CHRVA 18s BID or local tournaments required for BID. Also missing from other tournament registration lists.

These clubs market themselves as focused on college recruiting, but where are their 18s teams and actual commitments?