Anonymous
12/10/2024 09:01
Subject: Re:Swimstandards data
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think there's any magic happening behind the scenes. Times getting loaded into different places (USA swimming, swimcloud, swimstandards) depends on the meet organizer sending a meet result file. A site like swimmingrank (now gone), for example, used web scraping to some degree, to extract posted meet results.
But why would swimstandards have data almost immediately? Meet mobile?
Swimcloud can take a few days and relies on individuals to send it to them. USA Swimming gets it from the leagues.
swimmingrank didn't scrape websites. They pulled results files from LSC and team websites but also had many parents and coaches sending them results for LSCs that dont post results. They were around for 12+ years so had a lot of contacts and users
swimstandards and mywimio do it the same way. Compare their meet results pages on a monday and you'll see they are both pulling similar lsc meet results
Comparing them head to head from this past week, 12/5 to present, swimstandards currently has 63 and myswimio has 77 meet results
I think you misunderstand what web scraping means. Swim sites like PVS follow a specific template in organizing meet results in the current and historical seasons. You can write code to download the meet results files for how many years back and setup another scraping job to run once a week to see if new meet results are posted and download those files, too. And yes, people also were sending meet result files to swmmingrank. And if a site posts times on like an html table, then that's easy to scrape too.
Anonymous
12/10/2024 03:38
Subject: Re:Swimstandards data
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think there's any magic happening behind the scenes. Times getting loaded into different places (USA swimming, swimcloud, swimstandards) depends on the meet organizer sending a meet result file. A site like swimmingrank (now gone), for example, used web scraping to some degree, to extract posted meet results.
But why would swimstandards have data almost immediately? Meet mobile?
Swimcloud can take a few days and relies on individuals to send it to them. USA Swimming gets it from the leagues.
swimmingrank didn't scrape websites. They pulled results files from LSC and team websites but also had many parents and coaches sending them results for LSCs that dont post results. They were around for 12+ years so had a lot of contacts and users
swimstandards and mywimio do it the same way. Compare their meet results pages on a monday and you'll see they are both pulling similar lsc meet results
Comparing them head to head from this past week, 12/5 to present, swimstandards currently has 63 and myswimio has 77 meet results
Anonymous
11/05/2024 23:08
Subject: Swimstandards data
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oddly enough for people mourning the loss of swimmingrank, their app is still updating. It doesn’t appear to have uploaded the new time standards, but in terms of the times themselves and rankings within the club/LSC/Zone/US, it is still updating.
Show do you get past the homepage? Can you share a link to PVS rankings on swimmingrank?
Yes, the app works, when you are at the homepage you can still click on swimmer, team, rankings, etc., and once you’re in it still has the same functionality it did before other than the time standards not being updated. The website no longer works.
Anonymous
11/05/2024 21:36
Subject: Swimstandards data
Anonymous wrote:Oddly enough for people mourning the loss of swimmingrank, their app is still updating. It doesn’t appear to have uploaded the new time standards, but in terms of the times themselves and rankings within the club/LSC/Zone/US, it is still updating.
Show do you get past the homepage? Can you share a link to PVS rankings on swimmingrank?
Anonymous
11/05/2024 10:35
Subject: Swimstandards data
Oddly enough for people mourning the loss of swimmingrank, their app is still updating. It doesn’t appear to have uploaded the new time standards, but in terms of the times themselves and rankings within the club/LSC/Zone/US, it is still updating.
Anonymous
11/05/2024 09:46
Subject: Re:Swimstandards data
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think there's any magic happening behind the scenes. Times getting loaded into different places (USA swimming, swimcloud, swimstandards) depends on the meet organizer sending a meet result file. A site like swimmingrank (now gone), for example, used web scraping to some degree, to extract posted meet results.
But why would swimstandards have data almost immediately? Meet mobile?
Swimcloud can take a few days and relies on individuals to send it to them. USA Swimming gets it from the leagues.
From what I can tell, there is no relationship between swimstandards at ACTIVE network, which owns Hytek/MeetMobile. The person(s) running the site ultimately have to rely on meet organizations sending them the meet file or downloading the files as soon as they're posted. I don't see any API documentation either for which people could just submit meet times in a seamless way. Maybe swimstandards is just just faster in loading the results.
Anonymous
11/05/2024 09:26
Subject: Re:Swimstandards data
Anonymous wrote:I don't think there's any magic happening behind the scenes. Times getting loaded into different places (USA swimming, swimcloud, swimstandards) depends on the meet organizer sending a meet result file. A site like swimmingrank (now gone), for example, used web scraping to some degree, to extract posted meet results.
But why would swimstandards have data almost immediately? Meet mobile?
Swimcloud can take a few days and relies on individuals to send it to them. USA Swimming gets it from the leagues.
Anonymous
11/05/2024 08:23
Subject: Re:Swimstandards data
I don't think there's any magic happening behind the scenes. Times getting loaded into different places (USA swimming, swimcloud, swimstandards) depends on the meet organizer sending a meet result file. A site like swimmingrank (now gone), for example, used web scraping to some degree, to extract posted meet results.
Anonymous
11/04/2024 18:58
Subject: Swimstandards data
Anyone know where swimstandards.com pulls its data? It updates almost instantly when USA swimming doesn't even have the times.