I know that college admissions ask if you're a first generation student. Do they also ask about things like whether you get tutoring or college counseling? If not, seems like they should.

Anonymous wrote:This article should tell you how fake everything is.. from what activities to choose to what classes etc to take. Everything is curated. What a way to kill your innate passion and creativity.. 11 year olds already on this path to get into an Ivy.

From the article..

One of her stu­dents has 23 tu­tors help­ing her on aca­d­e­mic sub­jects and test prepa­ra­tion. The stu­dent is also writ­ing a novel, edit­ing an es­say for a com­pet­i­tive jour­nal and work­ing on a re­search pa­per that looks at the lin­guis­tic pat­terns in Tay­lor Swift songs.

It's interesting because you can get to at least some of this organically. Decades ago I had an internship in software engineering in high school...just because I really thought it would be fun. My interests bopped around a little bit, but my ultimate resume ended up looking kind of like the poor man's version of these kids who have these expensive college counselors. But it was all self-driven. Because of that, it was actually fun and interesting.

Anonymous wrote:After reading this article, parents will have their kids start podcasts, work on novel writing, and do research.. instead of sports, violin and piano.. 🙄

Huh?

They are already doing this.

So its all lies just to get into an Ivy? What a sham.. what kind of environment will this create on the campus.. all fake people doing fake activities to get a piece of paper that says they went to Harvard..

Anonymous wrote:This is why no one will hire students from these colleges ever again. They are all fake people who have done nothing real on their own. They will be terrible team players on projects.

This.
The AO’s who fall for this BS are signing the death warrant for these schools which will inevitably lose their luster as they churn out graduates of no substance.

After reading this article, parents will have their kids start podcasts, work on novel writing, and do research.. instead of sports, violin and piano.. 🙄

This is why no one will hire students from these colleges ever again. They are all fake people who have done nothing real on their own. They will be terrible team players on projects.

Anonymous wrote:Crimson prefers public school students over private. Also, they prefer to work with international students.

Yes, because it's well known now that your chances of elite college admissions are better in an uncompetitive environment. It's easier to stand out in the school, grading is easier, etc.

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, the same advice is available here for free. But these are folks who can drop $100k like it's a dime, so why not outsource.

The advice is freely available; however, the difference sounds like the tutor is holding your hand along with way to make sure that the tasks happen. I'm sure many of the writing of the books/papers are outsourced as well. To sum it up, it's a huge advantage to be well resourced.

Crimson prefers public school students over private. Also, they prefer to work with international students.

It’s clear that all of these applicants have really strong, narratives or themes

This article should tell you how fake everything is.. from what activities to choose to what classes etc to take. Everything is curated. What a way to kill your innate passion and creativity.. 11 year olds already on this path to get into an Ivy.

From the article..

One of her stu­dents has 23 tu­tors help­ing her on aca­d­e­mic sub­jects and test prepa­ra­tion. The stu­dent is also writ­ing a novel, edit­ing an es­say for a com­pet­i­tive jour­nal and work­ing on a re­search pa­per that looks at the lin­guis­tic pat­terns in Tay­lor Swift songs.

Interesting quotes from the article:

This year, Beaton’s clients made up nearly 2% of students admitted to the undergraduate class of 2028 at several elite schools including Brown, Columbia, Harvard and the University of Pennsylvania. Among his clients, 24 earned admission to Yale, 34 to Stanford and 48 to Cornell. The acceptance letters were certified by PricewaterhouseCoopers and a list of students admitted were provided by Beaton to The Wall Street Journal.

At Harvard, 23% of freshmen who started in fall 2023 reported working with a private admissions counselor, up from 13% in 2017, according to an annual survey conducted by the student newspaper. Last year, for freshmen from families with incomes over $500,000, 48% used one.

Data from the Crimson applications accepted at Ivy Leagues have refined Beaton’s understanding of what it takes to get in.

The average score on advanced-placement exams was 4.8 out of 5. The accepted students took an average of 8.4 AP classes—and those admitted to Harvard, Yale and Princeton took an average of 10.1 AP classes.

The average SAT score for an Ivy acceptance was 1568, and grades were as close to perfect as possible. A’s and A minuses are acceptable, but “B’s are bombs,” Beaton said.

Beaton said he advises students to aim for 10 activities connected across one or two themes, and that at least one should have a social-justice component. Leadership falls into two categories, institutional positions such as captain of sports teams or class president, and entrepreneurial positions.

One of her students has 23 tutors helping her on academic subjects and test preparation. The student is also writing a novel, editing an essay for a competitive journal and working on a research paper that looks at the linguistic patterns in Taylor Swift songs.

Honestly, the same advice is available here for free. But these are folks who can drop $100k like it's a dime, so why not outsource.

Hopefully this free link works.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/ivy-league-college-venture-capital-23dc95fa?st=76GcQ6&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink