B- for University of Southern California???

chicago with massive debt is higher than i expected?

BU, NYU, Santa Clara, and Georgetown are lower than I'd expect.

^^everywhere not listed has a C+ or below

College,State,GPA,Letter Grade:

University of Pennsylvania,PA,4.5,A+
Brigham Young University,UT,4.5,A+
Claremont McKenna College,CA,4.434,A+
Brigham Young University-Hawaii,HI,4.392,A+
Cornell University,NY,4.346,A+
Yale University,CT,4.341,A+
Bryn Mawr College,PA,4.325,A+
Texas Christian University,TX,4.32,A+
Hillsdale College,MI,4.248,A+
Saint Mary’s College,IN,4.227,A+
Stanford University,CA,4.217,A+
Hollins University,VA,4.165,A+
Duke University,NC,4.15,A+
Johnson C Smith University,NC,4.145,A+
Pomona College,CA,4.108,A+
Williams College,MA,4.108,A+
Bowdoin College,ME,4.108,A+
Swarthmore College,PA,4.098,A+
Wellesley College,MA,4.098,A+
University of Notre Dame,IN,4.093,A+
Washington University in St Louis,MO,4.077,A+
Amherst College,MA,4.077,A+
Carnegie Mellon University,PA,4.067,A+
Charles R Drew University of Medicine and Science,CA,4.057,A+
Hamilton College,NY,4.041,A+
The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art,NY,4.026,A+
Columbia University in the City of New York,NY,4.005,A+
Northwestern University,IL,3.985,A
Harvard University,MA,3.979,A
Rice University,TX,3.969,A
Massachusetts Institute of Technology,MA,3.969,A
Catawba College,NC,3.959,A
Emory University,GA,3.954,A
Johns Hopkins University,MD,3.948,A
Trinity University,TX,3.923,A
Mesivta Torah Vodaath Rabbinical Seminary,NY,3.923,A
McPherson College,KS,3.917,A
New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary,LA,3.907,A
Davidson College,NC,3.892,A
Wake Forest University,NC,3.881,A
Grinnell College,IA,3.855,A
Berry College,GA,3.83,A
Stephens College,MO,3.814,A
University of Chicago,IL,3.799,A
Dartmouth College,NH,3.794,A
Abilene Christian University,TX,3.778,A
Tulane University of Louisiana,LA,3.763,A
Villanova University,PA,3.757,A
The Juilliard School,NY,3.726,A
Oklahoma Baptist University,OK,3.721,A
Howard University,DC,3.695,A
Scripps College,CA,3.695,A
Brown University,RI,3.68,A
Berea College,KY,3.68,A
Princeton University,NJ,3.67,A-
Barnard College,NY,3.665,A-
Thomas Jefferson University,PA,3.654,A-
Southwestern University,TX,3.587,A-
Bard College,NY,3.572,A-
Brigham Young University-Idaho,ID,3.566,A-
Trinity College,CT,3.556,A-
Southern Methodist University,TX,3.515,A-
Moody Bible Institute,IL,3.515,A-
Vanderbilt University,TN,3.51,A-
Franciscan University of Steubenville,OH,3.51,A-
College of the Ozarks,MO,3.505,A-
Earlham College,IN,3.499,A-
Denison University,OH,3.499,A-
Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary,MO,3.484,A-
Alice Lloyd College,KY,3.463,A-
Colgate University,NY,3.443,A-
Middlebury College,VT,3.427,A-
Baylor University,TX,3.427,A-
Wheaton College,IL,3.427,A-
Tougaloo College,MS,3.422,A-
Smith College,MA,3.386,A-
Freed-Hardeman University,TN,3.386,A-
Centre College,KY,3.386,A-
Augustana University,SD,3.386,A-
Carleton College,MN,3.375,A-
Rabbinical Seminary of America,NY,3.375,A-
Northeastern University,MA,3.37,A-
Boston College,MA,3.355,B+
The University of the South,TN,3.355,B+
Washington and Lee University,VA,3.345,B+
Whitman College,WA,3.345,B+
Howard Payne University,TX,3.334,B+
Haverford College,PA,3.329,B+
Wesleyan University,CT,3.314,B+
Kenyon College,OH,3.308,B+
Harvey Mudd College,CA,3.303,B+
Bates College,ME,3.298,B+
California Institute of Technology,CA,3.293,B+
Occidental College,CA,3.288,B+
Colorado College,CO,3.277,B+
Babson College,MA,3.272,B+
Macalester College,MN,3.272,B+
Pitzer College,CA,3.267,B+
Goldey-Beacom College,DE,3.241,B+
Vassar College,NY,3.236,B+
Wabash College,IN,3.236,B+
University of Tulsa,OK,3.231,B+
Oral Roberts University,OK,3.226,B+
Tufts University,MA,3.221,B+
Colby College,ME,3.215,B+
University of Miami,FL,3.215,B+
College of the Holy Cross,MA,3.21,B+
Agnes Scott College,GA,3.21,B+
Case Western Reserve University,OH,3.2,B+
Everglades University,FL,3.19,B+
Bucknell University,PA,3.19,B+
Central Yeshiva Tomchei Tmimim Lubavitz,NY,3.19,B+
Montreat College,NC,3.19,B+
Gallaudet University,DC,3.19,B+
Lehigh University,PA,3.169,B+
Jarvis Christian University,TX,3.164,B+
Gustavus Adolphus College,MN,3.154,B+
Gwynedd Mercy University,PA,3.143,B+
Samford University,AL,3.138,B+
Kentucky Christian University,KY,3.133,B+
Lewis & Clark College,OR,3.117,B+
Martin Luther College,MN,3.107,B+
McMurry University,TX,3.102,B+
Minneapolis College of Art and Design,MN,3.097,B+
Menlo College,CA,3.086,B+
California Institute of the Arts,CA,3.071,B+
Texas College,TX,3.071,B+
Hampton University,VA,3.061,B+
St Olaf College,MN,3.045,B+
Claflin University,SC,3.04,B+
Benedictine College,KS,3.04,B+
Talladega College,AL,3.04,B+
Brandeis University,MA,3.035,B
Fisk University,TN,3.03,B
University of Richmond,VA,3.025,B
Washington College,MD,3.025,B
Chapman University,CA,3.019,B
Mount Holyoke College,MA,3.014,B
Rhode Island School of Design,RI,2.999,B
The Master’s University and Seminary,CA,2.988,B
Boston University,MA,2.983,B
Morehouse College,GA,2.983,B
New York University,NY,2.983,B
Texas Wesleyan University,TX,2.973,B
Southern Wesleyan University,SC,2.957,B
Ner Israel Rabbinical College,MD,2.952,B
Skidmore College,NY,2.947,B
Dickinson College,PA,2.942,B
Flagler College,FL,2.942,B
Clark Atlanta University,GA,2.932,B
Furman University,SC,2.926,B
Reed College,OR,2.921,B
Santa Clara University,CA,2.916,B
The Catholic University of America,DC,2.916,B
Southwestern Adventist University,TX,2.901,B
Virginia University of Lynchburg,VA,2.895,B
Randolph College,VA,2.895,B
Georgetown University,DC,2.885,B
Westminster College,MO,2.844,B
Tuskegee University,AL,2.839,B
Yeshivath Viznitz,NY,2.828,B
AdventHealth University,FL,2.818,B
Taylor University,IN,2.818,B
Bethune-Cookman University,FL,2.818,B
Savannah College of Art and Design,GA,2.813,B
Johnson University,TN,2.782,B
Rochester Institute of Technology,NY,2.782,B
Sarah Lawrence College,NY,2.777,B
Illinois Wesleyan University,IL,2.772,B
Oberlin College,OH,2.761,B
Hardin-Simmons University,TX,2.761,B
University of the Cumberlands,KY,2.756,B
Grove City College,PA,2.751,B
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University-Daytona Beach,FL,2.741,B
University of Northwestern-St Paul,MN,2.73,B
Maharishi International University,IA,2.72,B
Ohio Northern University,OH,2.72,B
University of Dayton,OH,2.72,B
Lafayette College,PA,2.715,B-
Dillard University,LA,2.715,B-
Gettysburg College,PA,2.71,B-
University of Rochester,NY,2.71,B-
Mars Hill University,NC,2.71,B-
Hendrix College,AR,2.705,B-
Le Moyne-Owen College,TN,2.705,B-
Philander Smith College,AR,2.689,B-
Saint Johns University,MN,2.684,B-
Columbus College of Art and Design,OH,2.679,B-
Union College,NY,2.674,B-
Bethel University,MN,2.663,B-
Hallmark University,TX,2.653,B-
Ouachita Baptist University,AR,2.653,B-
George Washington University,DC,2.653,B-
Loyola Marymount University,CA,2.648,B-
Rabbinical Academy Mesivta Rabbi Chaim Berlin,NY,2.643,B-
Elmhurst University,IL,2.637,B-
University of St Thomas,MN,2.632,B-
Mercy College of Health Sciences,IA,2.627,B-
Southern New Hampshire University,NH,2.627,B-
Williams Baptist University,AR,2.627,B-
Spelman College,GA,2.617,B-
Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary,NC,2.612,B-
Houston Baptist University,TX,2.606,B-
Ave Maria University,FL,2.606,B-
The New England Conservatory of Music,MA,2.601,B-
University of Southern California,CA,2.601,B-
Dordt University,IA,2.601,B-
Elon University,NC,2.596,B-
Universidad Ana G. Mendez-Gurabo Campus,PR,2.596,B-
Westminster College,PA,2.596,B-
Baker College,MI,2.591,B-
Herzing University-Kenosha,WI,2.591,B-
Universidad Central Del Caribe,PR,2.591,B-
Calvin University,MI,2.591,B-
John Brown University,AR,2.586,B-
Rust College,MS,2.586,B-
SUM Bible College and Theological Seminary,CA,2.575,B-
Rollins College,FL,2.57,B-
Bethany Lutheran College,MN,2.57,B-
Asbury University,KY,2.57,B-
Milligan University,TN,2.565,B-
Westmont College,CA,2.565,B-
Bethany College,WV,2.565,B-
Bushnell University,OR,2.56,B-
Franklin and Marshall College,PA,2.555,B-
DePauw University,IN,2.555,B-
Mount Carmel College of Nursing,OH,2.555,B-
Thomas Aquinas College,CA,2.555,B-
The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary,KY,2.55,B-
Saint Louis University,MO,2.55,B-
Connecticut College,CT,2.539,B-
Ashland University,OH,2.534,B-
Hampden-Sydney College,VA,2.529,B-
Walla Walla University,WA,2.529,B-
Wofford College,SC,2.529,B-
Albizu University-Miami,FL,2.514,B-
Allen College,IA,2.514,B-
Lawrence University,WI,2.508,B-
Luther College,IA,2.508,B-
Harding University,AR,2.503,B-
Goshen College,IN,2.498,B-
Otis College of Art and Design,CA,2.493,B-
University of Puget Sound,WA,2.488,B-
Beloit College,WI,2.483,B-
Belmont University,TN,2.477,B-
University of Mary Hardin-Baylor,TX,2.477,B-
Toccoa Falls College,GA,2.477,B-
Miles College,AL,2.477,B-
Clark University,MA,2.472,B-
Spring Arbor University,MI,2.472,B-
Pratt Institute-Main,NY,2.467,B-
University of New England,ME,2.462,B-
Herzing University-Minneapolis,MN,2.457,B-
University of San Diego,CA,2.457,B-
Syracuse University,NY,2.457,B-
Mary Baldwin University,VA,2.457,B-
Nebraska Methodist College of Nursing & Allied Health,NE,2.452,B-
Oklahoma Christian University,OK,2.452,B-
Gonzaga University,WA,2.436,B-
University of Pikeville,KY,2.436,B-
American University,DC,2.431,B-
Lycoming College,PA,2.431,B-
Wheaton College (Massachusetts),MA,2.431,B-
High Point University,NC,2.431,B-
The College of Wooster,OH,2.421,B-
Pepperdine University,CA,2.421,B-
University of Denver,CO,2.421,B-
Kalamazoo College,MI,2.415,B-
Rhodes College,TN,2.415,B-
Alfred University,NY,2.415,B-
Kansas City Art Institute,MO,2.41,B-
Creighton University,NE,2.41,B-
Centenary College of Louisiana,LA,2.41,B-
Union College,NE,2.41,B-
Huston-Tillotson University,TX,2.41,B-
St Lawrence University,NY,2.405,B-
Cedarville University,OH,2.405,B-
Universidad Ana G. Mendez-Carolina Campus,PR,2.405,B-
Transylvania University,KY,2.4,B-
Stonehill College,MA,2.4,B-

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This list makes no sense at all. The only 2 schools with a perfect 4.5 are Penn and Brigham Young, and Princeton scores 3.67 (A-)?? I looked at their methodology, and still this list is baffling.

Anonymous wrote:Another random and garbage post on DCUM.

There’s a legit question posed here. Do you consider financial strength of a school when choosing colleges? What’s random and garbage about that?

Another random and garbage post on DCUM.

Anonymous wrote:Full list here: https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/forbes-2024-financial-grades/3672040/4. Many colleges are much worse ranks than the past.

link doesn't work.

All SLACS?

I was just wondering the same re: Fordham…

Why is Fordham's score (1.61 C-) so low?

Full list here: https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/forbes-2024-financial-grades/3672040/4. Many colleges are much worse ranks than the past.

can't see bc of firewall but we excluded schools from our list if they had B- or lower based on last 2 years forbes ranking.

Any link without paywall?

According to Forbes, Covid federal funding (now dried up) was covering up challenges and artificially inflating grades. Many schools fell from their 2023 "A" level grades. University of Richmond: A+ to B; Colby A+ to B+; Bates A+ to B+; Hampden Syndey A+ to B-; Hobart A to C+; Randolph Macon A to C+; Dickinson A+ to B, and on and on. How much do you weigh financial health of a school? Our college counselor just cited Moody's bond ratings when comparing schools. (Obviously not an issue with the super elite schools)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawhitford/2024/08/03/forbes-2024-college-financial-grades-americas-strongest-and-weakest-schools/